• Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    With the number of politicians/mayors who get killed each year in Mexico, how in the hell is someone allowed to get that close to her? Holy shit.

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      If I were the president of Mexico I wouldn’t be mingling in crowds like this at all, but yeah her security was wayyy too slow on the draw.

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      If the cartels wanted her dead, no amount of security would save her. She’s only in that position because the cartels allow her to be in that position.

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        I wonder how much of that is true for any president. Like did Obama get a “talk” when he became president?

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          C. G. P. Grey’s “Rules for Rulers” is illuminating on that front, but I don’t think you mean soft power. I think you mean gangsters. And I think that most US presidents avoid such a thing by virtue of being the C in C of the biggest military on the planet. Though maybe they get a little bit of it from the Pentagon, I dunno.

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            Obligatory: ‘Rules for Rulers’ is a very condensed summary of Bruce Bueno de Mesquita and Alastair Smith’s ‘The Dictator’s Handbook’.

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      Scumbags like this only scream/harass/physically attack decent democratically elected politicians like Claudia Sheinbaum, Justin Trudeau, Keir Starmer…

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    People is talking in México, everybody is saying (including me) that is a smoke screen for the last events that have took place in the country: Waldos’ incident in Hermosillo and Carlos Manzo’s murder in Uruapan, both happening the same day, the Day of the Dead’s eve.

    Edit: If really is a smoke screen, Morena is showing us once again that you always can get lower. Only they can use a real problem like women harassment to make people forget that Mexico is mad and we want a real change.

    Edit 2: It’s already happening: https://www.jornada.com.mx/noticia/2025/11/05/politica/ony-y-onu-mujeres-respaldan-a-sheinbaum-tras-episodio-de-acoso I hate this goverment so much

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      You’re saying she wanted to be groped, that she orchestrated it? That’s pretty fucked up to say. Anything to allow this type of behavior, right?

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        If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

        Edit; they’re also blaming the party, not her specifically. Reading up on her, I think she’s OK. The party seems corrupt though.

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          One cannot simultaneously say that it’s a serious issue and then dismiss an incidence of it, plain to see on camera, with a conspiracy theory.

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            …yeah, you can. Are you implying that no giverment has ever performed false flag attacks?

            Im not on either side of this, only learned about it yesterday. But it is a wild take to say that because you recognise a problem, you are suddenly magically incapable of looking at nuance.

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              I’m saying that men have groped women many orders of magnitude more frequently and Occam’s razor should apply. You can turn this into a false flag conspiracy and blame the woman who got groped, on zero evidence Just don’t claim you’re serious about women’s issues if you do. You can’t have it all.

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                If I’m reading the edit correctly, cappucino is saying that women being harrassed is a real problem in Mexico and that Morena is fucked up enough to use it as a distraction from other serious issues.

                im not going to debate whether i stand for womens rights with you. But again, nuance.

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        watch the video. if it were fake and staged then when you see the video of the act it looks like nothing. Again, the guy in the video holds her shoulder and leans in for a kiss, but stops short of kissing her because he was told to by her security. Are you a white american? I believe mexicans over you

        Again, if this were not taged then obviously youre in the right to be upset, but there is a potential this was staged. Why couldnt this have been staged as the mexican people in this thread keep saying

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        You can imagine how much we have seen this kind of behavior before. Women that are obviously culprit, mocking off real victims of sexual abuse, wanting to be shielded by sorority. Here Claudia Sheinbaum “is another victim”, she felt harrasded, like Carlos Manzo did when he asked for help for its city and was completly ignored.

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      Se pueden atender dos problemas al mismo tiempo. El gobierno es un asco pero no entiendo que tiene que ver la noticia de la ONU con la explosión del waldos

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        La ONU está respaldando a Claudia, probablemente todo el mundo se entere de lo que le pasó a ella debido ya que la ONU está relacionada ahora, lo que me da mucha rabia es que ahora existe una mujer viuda, que ahora es alcaldeza de Uruapan. ¿Quién la respalda a ella y lo que le pueda pasar? Acaba de pasar completamente a segundo plano.

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    I support beatings for such people.

    spoiler

    And maybe break their hands, just to be sure.

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        I wish. Most people don’t even get serious times for murder. They get remission for some reason and kill someone again when they’re out. Serving time doesn’t change their behaviour. It might work for some people but it definitely doesn’t work for some. Where is justice if you can’t prevent it after seeing their previous misdemeanors?

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        The hand breaking could absolutely be doled out judicially. He didn’t say it should be done without due process.

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      The same creep who whines and cries and complains about how the HR department is a conspiracy to oppress white men will be cornering the fucking CTO in the break room at the first opportunity.

      Only way to deal with these assholes is to shove them in a concrete box until they sober up and learn manners.

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      I mean you’re not wrong, but women aren’t much better. If this man runs for office tomorrow, 50% of women would probably vote for him.