Thats 8000 people with experience running social media that could use their knowledge and wealth to build the Fediverse and competitively reduce Meta’s monopoly.
If even a small group of them realise the agency they have, it could be damaging to Meta, and an acceptable form of growth for the Fediverse as a whole.
I’m assuming anybody that works at Meta still now must be so signed up to their horrible practices, so i don’t expect much from former Meta employees. I’d be happy to be surprised though.
8000 people with experience running social media
Is it that hard? As a programmer, I’ve never seen anything on Faceblerk that made me go “wow! How did they do that?”
I don’t know, going from an almost irreplaceable social planning tool to a classified ads host is pretty remarkable. Like in the 2010s my Facebook was my social calendar. Now I can’t even be bothered to recover my account to get onto the market place to buy used crap.
Seems so since no one can fucking do it.
It’s more about the money than the technology.
Placement of the events page is wonderfully hard. A lot of effort must have been spent making that very unidentifiable.
I guess thats a “wow! How did they do that?” Moment for me.
Thats 8000 people with experience running social media that could use their knowledge and wealth to build the Fediverse and competitively reduce Meta’s monopoly.
That’s 8000 people who would use their knowledge to monetize the Fediverse by selling bots that push agendas.
I’d imagine the people they’re letting go are the programmers and developers rather than the money people
Yeah, don’t expect much from the What can I be expected to do? I need a job crowd.
They will never sacrifice a moment of inconvenience or a dollar for any of us.
I don’t see them coming here en masse to help pave the future for lemmy without any monetary incentives
8000 people used to high salaries and probably living in or around silicon valley with insane cost of living. I don’t have high hopes for them switching to working on fediverse projects…
Many of them are petite bourgeoisie sure, but I don’t think you realize how hungry so many people in tech are to work on something real and good.
What the fuck is stopping them then?
Plenty of us are out here spending our own money on our own projects not expecting millions for it. What’s their fucking excuse?
I think awareness of the Fediverse, or the social web, is much lower than the people involved would assume. I’d think people in tech would have a greater awareness, but maybe thats not even a true assumption.
Meta was making Threads federate, so they know at least.
Yeah of the people in techI’ve spoken to about the fediverse, even the ones that did know only had a surface level understanding, and didn’t seem to consider it something that was for them for whatever reason.
Yeah, i’ve had a similar experience. Even with those friends running their own servers seem to have a lack of awareness. Considering the strength of the Linux and Foss communities here i’m surprised more information hasn’t crossed over into other forums.
Is it just because we stop using the commercial platforms when we switch to fedi? I assumed most people were dual users though
I don’t think they realize how easy it is to just walk away.
I was stuck on that treadmill for years before I realized
8000 people who were morally bankrupt enough to work for facebook.
I don’t get it? How can it be horrible to work for a horrible company, that has a leader with zero respect for other people?
This is probably the greatest mystery of our time!For those of us on the outside looking in, 99% of what we see is Zuckerberg and we hate him and we think oh well anyone who works for him must be a miserable asshole. But Meta is a big place where some ~70,000 people work, and their experience of working there is not actually 99% made up of tossing Mark’s salad. I’m sure some parts of the company are better to work for and some are worse. A lot of people there have a great experience most of the time. When I’ve visited the campus it has had high energy and it comes across as a place where a huge number of very smart, high achieving young people have been assembled all together, with more money than god has behind them to build the next big thing. To somehow turn all of that bad is actually noteworthy.
I am not an idiot that is unaware that most people working for Meta will never even meet Zuckerberg.
But if the head is rotten, it usually goes all the way down. Because that’s the hierarchy of policies and who gets hired.
Zuckerberg has zero empathy, and he will not detect and appreciate it people he hires. And this is repeated downwards.I believe the turn of phrase is “shit rolls down hill”
Haha I didn’t know that, but that’s is very fitting.
You just passionately restated the exact misconception I described. Okay, I guess.
Just because it can look good on the surface when you visit, doesn’t mean the effect isn’t there.
You just don’t see it, until you see it.Let’s just define all the degrees of knowing anything:
- you have used Facebook.com and read a bunch of headlines about Mark Zuckerberg (this is 99.9% of people and certainly almost everyone in this thread).
- you work in the same industry as Facebook so you hear things and have some frame of reference for them
- you work in the same industry and have actual friends who work there
- you work in the same industry and have friends who work there and have visited on site
- you have worked there yourself for a brief time
- you have worked there for a long time
- you have worked there for a long time and other places in the same industry so you have a frame of reference
So yeah. I’m not a #7, just a #4, but this is a few degrees past #1
But my point is not to argue that I know so much, just that the vast majority of people who think they can see everything from a million miles away are full of shit. They don’t know what they don’t know. I don’t know everything, but I at least have a sense of how much most people don’t know.
I have never used Facebook, because I actually read their terms of use. And they were disgusting from day 1.
But that absolutely doesn’t mean I don’t know about the company. I’d argue that working in the company only marginally increases your knowledge of it from a personal anecdotal experience, that may even skew your perception of the company.
You can’t understand a company, just by being inside and be 1 of 70000 employees.I’d argue that already early on I knew more than many that worked there, just by actually reading their terms, and understand the mindset behind them.
I also have the age and experience to have followed Facebook and Zuckerberg, and his appearances before congress, the fines that have been issued by EU, and many other things where it has been proven that Facebook is a shitty company.
For instance their role in the first election of Trump, and cooperation with Cambridge Analytica.
Generally a company that is total shit towards customers and children and even authorities and a population as a whole, and displays a shitty personality in general, will also be shitty towards their employees when it counts.I knew more than many that worked there, just by actually reading their terms, and understand the mindset behind them.
Yeah okay, guy. You know more about it than people with direct experience. In fact their direct experience only clouds their minds!
You have a dangerous kind of arrogance. The kind that makes you think you know what’s best for others more than they do just by your piercing insight.
You also patently don’t understand how to read a TOS. They are by design incredibly over-reaching and self-interested to the exclusion of the rights of others. This is a legal fiction they reserve in advance so that no matter the eventuality, they can claim you agreed to it. It represents the uttermost limit of what they can imagine. Not the center of gravity of what it’s like to work there.
Anyway, I don’t need to hear more about how your insight penetrates the world from the comfort of your chair.
The only way to get to the bottom of this is by giving our personal information, buying those VR glasses, and living inthe metaverse.
Should we do it? No? Oh. I guess that’s what they mean by “ignorance is bliss”.
mechanical clicking processor: camera aimed in my direction, respond as humans do gears alter facial expression processor: execution flawless, hold until photo is complete. Success
program captures keystrokes, clicks, mouse movements and periodic screenshots […] to train AI agents capable (?) of mimicking human workflows
Question mark added. Adding insult to injury, they’ve been training their “replacements”. Can’t wait to see the whole enterprise go down in flames.
“Dumb fucks”
-Suckerberg
I typically want good things for all people, but I don’t feel bad for people who knowingly worked for an evil company when bad things happen.
android zuckerborg is unlikely to care about humanity
Is this to help them burn cash on AI a bit longer? That’s how I’m taking it.
Joke’s on them for not unionizing.
Some have tried. They have a long history of suppressing unionization efforts.
Full time employees are not currently unionized, although some contractors indirectly employed by Meta are. In April 2024, the NLRB ruled that Meta had unlawfully restricted employees right to organize, including “non-disparagement and confidentiality restrictions (that) prohibited former employees from raising workplace concerns with co-workers, labor organizations, or the public, preventing them from finding support when dealing with labor disputes. These restrictions would also apply even if former employees’ statements were truthful.”
What is the point of working at Facebook anymore. What are you accomplishing working for this company. It doesn’t even have much of a clear product anymore.
Must be nice to work for principles.
Gotta eat and new grads need their first jobs on their resume. (Assuming Meta is even hiring new grad roles.)
places like meta,google requires quite extensive experience. grads have to try smaller tech.mid tech, but those seem to have vanished when they started laying off people in 23. if you are a fresh graduate in any stem/tech and are looking at the big tech/stem companies you are looking at the wrong place and setting up for disappointment/failure and might cause you to cherry pick, unless you can get int through nepotism or some how have 2+year experience before graduation, even then its very hard.
Their job postings required a lot of experience when I saw them on LinkedIn and indeed. Maybe they’ve lowered their standards. I just haven’t seen it considering they pay well into the $200k-$300k range.
They pay well. The ‘product’ they’ve been obliterating their money with the last 6 years or so has been AR tech which has not really come to fruition because the full package is kind of impossible (how you gonna fit a battery in a pair of AR glasses?).
$$$
If you think, I, we, they, or anything in between, that gives two s**** about facebook employees or meta employees.You are so wrong.
Help those evil devil Weevils suffer more and then learn from their suffering.
Its Kind of like crime and punishment go hand in hand.
Ps> leave Facebook id your still on it.
Still shit for the SW engineer job market.
That’s like saying shutting down ice is bad for the law enforcement market.
Sure, I guess, technically. But its a small price to pay to stop the wickedness of this world.
Oh no some of our colleagues at the torment nexus might be let go
I’m sure other people will still want to build torment nexuses (nexen? nexii?) so their long term prospects are probably okay. Humanity will never give up trying to build the torment nexus, we all love that book so much.
Should be in Uplifting News.
Yes, I thought this is excellent. I hope some of them will walk away with enough inside knowledge of how things work there to know how to sabotage/cripple the company in some way/s later.
We love a good redemption story.
Hmm, thanks for reminding me to subscribe to !maliciouscompliance@lemmy.world.
I hope the ones that remain will be demoralized and disgruntled enough to sabotage/cripple the company internally as well.
Ha, true! You know, Meta is in massive debt (probably from their catastrophic WhatsApp acquisition and maintenance + the idiotic investment into the Metaverse)… I kinda wonder what might happen if the Zuck were to decide to charge FB users $1/year or something… and gradually creep it up… As disappointing as it may be, I actually think a lot of people would stay up to, like, $10 or even, $20/year…
Except when looking for a new job and now so are 8k other people :/
Burn it to the ground, metaphorically
Hang the higher-ups in minecraft
They use the Metaverse there.
underrated meme lol
How do I keep finding new clips! It’s been 11 years since the show stopped airing!!!
And physically.
Especially physically.
Shh
I don’t mean anything bad. I just feel for the people who lost their jobs.
Setting yourself on fire is terrible
They could all quit en masse. That’d be pretty funny.
