The Elder Scrolls Arena let you play as a black woman in 1992. Name another game that did that.

Pretty much every game has offered a world where both races and sexes participate equally, and no one really cares (Morrowind’s racism is always made alien and upsetting thematically).

In Morrowind you can’t be a lesbian with Ahnassi (although the guy who wrote The Lusty Argonian Maid is an equal opportunity HR disaster). One of the rare characters Oblivion bothers to spend time on in a faction quest line is very clearly gay. Skyrim everyone is pan.

And a lot of this is just the same in Adventure Construction Set a series Howard explicitly took inspiration from. The game doesn’t really give that much of a shit about what you look like. It’s far more effort to code in racism, when you start with that kind of open world model.

  • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 hours ago

    Not really though. A lot of the positive representation in the player is incidental to providing a lot of options in character creation. All of the NPCs are essentially asexual, and the few you can marry are panromantic, but thats just easier to code so they dont have to check for gender or record different lines for rejecting you based on gender.

    All of the elder scrolls games are still very rooted in amatonormativity and heteronormativity. They sort of skirt the issue by just never addressing it. Divorce is impossible in Skyrim without killing your spouse. You can only marry and live with one partner at a time. In terms of romance it’s basically the shallowest possible nuclear family simulator, with the player always in the role of the master of the house and the partner in the role of caregiver/house maintainer/slave. Any representation of queer relationships is only accidental, which for me gives them zero points. They just didn’t bother enforcing straight relationships.

    Additionally they force a biological sex based gender selection. Theres no way to be trans or nonbinary, even in the sexless world of Skyrim. You choose the male body you’re he/him, you choose the female body you’re she/her. No women with facial hair, no men with boobs, no short kings or tall queens, no androgyny at all.

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    16 hours ago

    Elder Scrolls is one of the most racist worlds there is. Every race hates each other. They enslave each other, kill, war against, just because of race. Hell one race even changed thier skin color.

    But to your point, there’s already one example of a playable black woman in the comments. I’m sure there’s more. Don’t forget ES lore was written before Howard showed up to remove features. So don’t give him credit where he didn’t earn it.

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      10 hours ago

      The worlds might be racist, but the game doesn’t really punish the player for being any race. Thematically the racism is always shown to be wrong.

      I’m sure there’s more.

      You’d be surprised. I think there is like one fighting game character and that’s it. I invite anyone to share if they know more for sure. I think there’s also clearly something special about being able to play a black character as a protagonist in a first person roleplaying game versus a random game show tie in game.

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        5 hours ago

        The game doesn’t punish you for being any race

        Have you never played Morrowind as a Khajit or Argonian?

        They can’t wear shoes or helmets. So they are mechanically punished by not having two armor slots available to them that every other race has. /s

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        5 hours ago

        It’s an interesting question. I searched a little bit and found mostly 2000 onward. Theres some 90s though, like the Matrix game. But yeah, i get ya.

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      14 hours ago

      Depicting racism is not racist.

      You’re painting a picture of a constant churning racewar, which is just not true. Elves have an elven supremacy bent that’s not universe and portrayed as a flaw. There’s other depictions of racism that again are not universal traits. Dark elves have the most of it, but dark elves are traditionally the evil elves - though in ES dunmer are more complicated than that.

      People from different cultures and species regularly get along even as nations war with each other.

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    16 hours ago

    No shade on ur whole thesis but “Wheel of Fortune” for the Sega Genesis did let u play as a black woman and also came out in 1992.