Waste heat from data centers can boost air temperatures in downwind neighborhoods by as much as 4 degrees Fahrenheit, researchers at Arizona State University report in a new study conducted in the Phoenix metro area, the hottest in the U.S.
So running a community forum on a decade old laptop, or someone using a hand-me-down phone to watch videos are equal to openAI’s stargate hyperscaler?
We don’t classify a laptop a data centre just because it was repurposed as a web server, and furthermore, devices are so powerful today that you could probably do the same on a smart watch.
Either you don’t know what a data centre is, or are intentionally skewing the definition of “data centre” to fit your snarky reply.
YouTube requires enormous amounts of data center hardware. Do you have any idea how much video data they injest, transcode, and distribute in even just an hour or a minute? It’s not very economical to run actually and they had major problems even breaking even.
Most large Lemmy instances run on cloud services nowadays. So they rely on a datacenter somewhere. I am well aware you can self-host - I have done so for multiple things including AI models and tools - but that’s a minority of Lemmy users. Most are using public instances which are hosted on servers in the cloud. In fact if you read the deployment guide for Lemmy it is meant to be deployed using cloud native technology.
You also don’t need a whole Stargate to host one users AI usage. You don’t even need a whole server. Typically AI servers process requests from multiple users simultaneously. The actual marginal cost of each user is relatively small, hence why people can and do run local AI models.
The majority of datacenters and datacenter power consumption are not for AI. Before AI no one cared about datacenters. Still no one cares about datacenters that already existed and make up the majority of datacenters. I don’t understand it. Is this just manufactured outrage?
You do need consent from other people…. That’s the whole point of zoning laws…… which is half the reason why there’s a housing crisis…. I’m a real estate agent and a real estate developer and have been for two decades so I don’t need your childish little fucking opinion on shit. Always some libertarian moron trying to pretend like laws don’t exist everywhere.
Well, you’ve kind of missed the basis of a democracy. You the individual person cast a vote for your council person, right? Usually when we have town council meetings regarding real estate development, individual people do show up and scream.
Kind of breaks the social contract to suddenly increase a community’s electricity consumption so much that everyone who lives in it is told to go find their own electricity, don’t you think?
Right?
Like, says who and on what historical basis? People said similar shit about crypto and we all know how that turned out.
You literally are using a data center or several to post this. How do you think the internet works?
Disingenuous
So running a community forum on a decade old laptop, or someone using a hand-me-down phone to watch videos are equal to openAI’s stargate hyperscaler?
We don’t classify a laptop a data centre just because it was repurposed as a web server, and furthermore, devices are so powerful today that you could probably do the same on a smart watch.
Either you don’t know what a data centre is, or are intentionally skewing the definition of “data centre” to fit your snarky reply.
YouTube requires enormous amounts of data center hardware. Do you have any idea how much video data they injest, transcode, and distribute in even just an hour or a minute? It’s not very economical to run actually and they had major problems even breaking even.
Most large Lemmy instances run on cloud services nowadays. So they rely on a datacenter somewhere. I am well aware you can self-host - I have done so for multiple things including AI models and tools - but that’s a minority of Lemmy users. Most are using public instances which are hosted on servers in the cloud. In fact if you read the deployment guide for Lemmy it is meant to be deployed using cloud native technology.
You also don’t need a whole Stargate to host one users AI usage. You don’t even need a whole server. Typically AI servers process requests from multiple users simultaneously. The actual marginal cost of each user is relatively small, hence why people can and do run local AI models.
Please don’t be obtuse on purpose. It’s not helpful to anyone
How is this being obtuse?
Not the same type of data centre.
The majority of datacenters and datacenter power consumption are not for AI. Before AI no one cared about datacenters. Still no one cares about datacenters that already existed and make up the majority of datacenters. I don’t understand it. Is this just manufactured outrage?
C’mon bro put 2 and 2 together, you can do it
What do you want me to put together? Why don’t you just come out and say what you mean instead of beating around the bush?
People hate data centers because they are being forced into our communities without our consent. Consent. Consent.consent
Most datacenters are not in urban communities they are in industrial zones.
You also don’t need the consent of other people to build things on land you own. Get out of here with this shit.
You do need consent from other people…. That’s the whole point of zoning laws…… which is half the reason why there’s a housing crisis…. I’m a real estate agent and a real estate developer and have been for two decades so I don’t need your childish little fucking opinion on shit. Always some libertarian moron trying to pretend like laws don’t exist everywhere.
If you need the consent to build them then how are they being forced on communities without consent? You are contradicting yourself now.
Clearly you’ve never been to a heated town council meeting over the development of a small duplex. Grow up and participate in your local government?
Yeah you need the consent of the council for planning permission. Not the consent of the individual people.
I am not a libertarian either, but whatever.
Well, you’ve kind of missed the basis of a democracy. You the individual person cast a vote for your council person, right? Usually when we have town council meetings regarding real estate development, individual people do show up and scream.
Kind of breaks the social contract to suddenly increase a community’s electricity consumption so much that everyone who lives in it is told to go find their own electricity, don’t you think?