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    secrecy orders have been imposed not only on inventions affecting military defense but also on those alleged to threaten economic stability, with critics noting that many such restrictions rest on speculative or unproven harms.

    But also

    The law applies broadly to all inventions in the United States for which a patent is filed or granted (35 U.S.C. § 181).

    So if you really do have a society changing invention - one that could upset this capitalist or neoliberal world order - it is your duty to publically release it and not patent it

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      I suspect the “threatens economic stability” is stuff like printers that can produce dollars and the type of paper/thread/plastic material that makes up modern currency. I think people are looking for a conspiracy here when it’s just a logical choice. Some things people shouldn’t have a playbook on how to create.

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        The US government fought encryption beyond the millenium. Pretty much still is as it gains backdoors everywhere.

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      In which case some rich cunt will patent it and nuke the internet of its details

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          Worst kind of poster, sees a ratioed a comment jumps in for an easy jab. If I’m wrong so be it but you added less than anyone to this thread. You could have corrected me but nothing was easier.

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            It’s your burden to show when things like that happened. You just said a vague sentence while acting like you’re adding to the conversation.

            You weren’t.

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                Strawmaning is dumb.

                I said you should show when something like that happened. Or shut up.

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                  Except that isnt what you said, you said No. Its not strawmaning, I am not defending my point I’m criticising your role in this as useless. My comment and your comment being the two wrongs.

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        Good luck scrubbing anything off the internet with even a little social momentum. If people think its good enough to share, then it’s never fully getting scrubbed.

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          Do you think there would be significant momentum behind someone posting what amounts to detailed patenting information?

          Presumably someone without a following that absolutely no one that runs any of the social momentum sites would want someone else to have?

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          Sure its not, I am delghted for you that you can still see the fappening nudes but if you think for a second that US hosting companies will be allowed to host content that has been flagged under this procedure you ae dreaming.

          Its not conspiritorial to recognise things can be made very difficuly to find on the public facing web.

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            US hosted companies

            Thats like saying you can’t sell drugs inside the police commissioners office. Yeah, everyone understands that, doofus. Nobody that wants to release information that a nation state level actor wants suppressed is going to do it within their borders.

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              This is intentionally obtuse, how is something going to gain traction without being hosted on services that are answerable to the US before someone else were to patent it and start the process.

              Tell people down the pub and upload it to what? Pirate bay? Tiktok?

              It would be incredibly difficult, the law is ripe for abuse.

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        Honestly it is a bit busy, like feature creep.

        The lower stock and left bow are unfortunately now broken, but I want to do my best to restore it eventually.

        I’ve already collected feathers and a new rifle scope, I just need an antique Volkswagen leaf spring…

        Yeah you think this is a witch stew, but it isn’t. These are the parts I need to properly fix my dad’s invention.

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    and the politicians pinky promise they won’t use it for market manipulation… pinky promise

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    You can set up a genetic engineering lab for under 5000 bucks in your garage, and I would prefer you not being able to google how to DIY some super-ebola, thank you very much.

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      Look, we need to open source genetic engineering.

      Some bastard will create super-ebola, sure, but some proactive individuals will quickly create a free vaccine for it, and for cancer and the common cold. (It will also turn you into a literal furry, of course, but that’s probably a price worth paying.)

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        Unfortunately causing damage is almost always much easier than protecting against it. For a deadly virus this seems especially true because someone could have a lab in their garage and die once it’s created, but to study it afterward would require extreme care.

        So say a few bastards release 1000 variants of different super-viruses instead of just one. Then the research and infrastructure needed to counter them multiply potentially to an unrealistic level.

        Also if someone can create super-ebola, that doesn’t mean a vaccine could also be created.

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      Yes this video destroyed me and made me realize that any life-changing awesome invention would surely be suppressed

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    Literally does make sense. You don’t want the how to for building a good gyroscope out there(too much). Some bits and pieces are really hard to get working well. And when you do you get great ICBMs. Still might want to patent it.

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      Yeah, let’s voluntarily lower the quality of all of our lives simply to give some minute advantage in the geopolitical chess game.

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        You would not use those in consumer tech. They are only useful for spaceflight. Which necessarily includes weapons.

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          All technologies have military and civilian use. Just because you can’t think of a civilian application for precision gyroscope doesn’t mean others can’t. Precision surveying immediately comes to mind as a potential application, plus civilian inertial navigation devices.

          And no, there is not some magical level of precision that only the military has use for. If something has military applications, it also has civilian ones. Hell, there are potential peaceful applications of nuclear bombs. If those can be a dual-use technology, anything can be.

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      Yes, exactly. I used to design tools to test these and we weren’t allowed to patent them, but I think some of the high level concepts were secret patents though I can’t know that.

      For anyone wondering the thing ICBMs (and jet planes) use is called a gyroscope and gives the same output but it isn’t a “spinning top” gyro that you might be thinking of. Rather think super sensitive dynamo, or reversed motor. Tiny rotation turns into voltage signal.

      There is an even newer type that uses laser but I don’t know anything about it.

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    not only in the US but I bet the american cia have killed people in other countries to protect rich people money. I bet we do have a water based car