The worst-case scenario is now a possible one: European troops fighting off an invasion largely alone.

It’s by no means clear the Europeans would succeed. Romanian and other European officials at the exercise in Cincu, about 260 kilometers (162 miles) north of Bucharest by road, voiced concerns about how long it would take for NATO allies to make it to the front.

French four-star General Philippe de Montenon said he’s confident Europe could prevail, even without the US on side. “The direction of history is a progressive disengagement of the United States from the European continent,” he said.

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  • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    Why do we fucking still Need to use military confrontation for everything?

    Fr in this modern world with phones, internet and much more, why do we have to confront by sending young people in a year grinder?

    I am ashamed of my species

    • khepri@lemmy.world
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      Well because no amount of “phones internet and much more” is going to stop a foreign invading soldier with a gun from taking your shit and killing you, would be the very short answer.

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        Apperently yall havent got this isnt a realistic thing but a call on how war isnt that good you know?

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          ok, well if the point you were trying to make is “war isnt that good you know?” then hard agree from me, but that’s a serious motte-and-baily retreat from your original words wondering why we still sometimes need armed confrontation even in today’s world.

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            13 days ago

            Aremed confrontation as in military, especially if the people dont want to be there fighting, Isnt good.

            Unfortunately with some governments you cant treat in peace and the people Will Need to arm themselves and do stuff.

            I still Think that in any case there should be the leasts deaths possibile

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              No one is arguing otherwise.

              But your original question is why do we still need the military when we have smartphones, and of course the answer is because the existence of smartphones does not dissuade the likes of Putin, because why would it?

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                It was and example to show how we developedand how we progress but still do something as primitive as war

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      UH OH - you did a ‘leftism’ in the warmongering liberal instance. you get sentenced to several downvotes and a brainwashed accusation!

      • khepri@lemmy.world
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        What a wild thing to say about supporting a sovereign nation in defending its borders.

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        Warmongering in this case being defined as discussing the possibility of another nation state attacking them.

        • Twongo [she/her]@lemmy.ml
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          the situation in ukraine did not happen in a vacuum. there are reasons why russia decided to invade.

          there is no logical explaination why russia would want to attack NATO and trigger article 5.

          but hey as long as the fear exists we can watch line go up in rheinmetall, saab & dassault stocks so the capital of a stagnating empire can save itself.

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            there are reasons why russia decided to invade.

            Yeah the reason being that they believe that Ukraine had little in the way of defence and that they would be able to get away with it. Hence why military posturing is necessary, to convince the Russians they wouldn’t be able to get away with it.

            If some disaster took down Poland’s electrical and communication network Russia would be in there like a shot. Don’t try and claim otherwise they have form of taking advantage.

      • CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml
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        13 days ago

        Haaai :3 i already saw you a couple times herw on lemmy.

        Yeah btw these fuckers are everywhere .

        Ik Surprised no One told me to go kms yet