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EU households should stockpile essential supplies to survive at least 72 hours of crisis, Brussels has proposed, as Russia’s war in Ukraine and a darkening geopolitical landscape prompt the bloc to take new steps to increase its security.
The continuing conflict in Ukraine, the Covid-19 pandemic that brutally exposed a lack of crisis response capabilities and the Trump administration’s adversarial stance towards Europe have forced the continent to rethink its vulnerabilities and increase spending on defence and security.
The new initiative comes as European intelligence agencies warn that Russia could attack an EU member state within three to five years, adding to natural threats including floods and wildfires worsened by climate change and societal risks such as financial crises.
Europe faced increased threats “including the possibility of armed aggression against member states”, the European Commission warned on Wednesday as it published a 30-step plan for its 27 capitals to increase their preparedness for crisis and mitigation measures.
I’m from EU and this is way less than my country suggests, which is 2 weeks.
I actually have 2 weeks supplies, but I’m gonna eat baked beans and vegan chocolate and drink coke zero the last few days 😅
Yeah, 3 days is a joke. Do they expect a war to be over in 3 days?
More likely they expect to be able to get support/reinforcement/aid in, within a couple of days.
It’s big enough to be a useful stopgap, but small enough not to accidentally cause a run on the supermarkets. It also makes people think about it more. If they update it to 2 weeks later, people are more likely to have a feel for what they need, and what will keep.
I think big part is that people would go out and empty the shelfs imediately if they all started stockpiling for two weeks starting tommorow.
I started getting a bit more everytime it was on sale about three years ago, and have a decent stockpile that probably lasts me for more than 4 weeks… It’s an art to not get too much so that you can eat it when it gets close to expiration date though, so it’s better to not buy everything at once but to spread it out.
But in the end, canned food will likely last many more years than the expiration date suggests.
I’ve maintained a basic stock for a while now. I suspected people would panic buy with COVID. I stocked up well before, and so dodged most of it. I’ve kept an extra buffer since.
Some special military operations are planned like that 🙄
Not war, but special military operation.
It is not just for war, but disasters in general, imagine a colapse or jamming of internet network or credit card buying or isolation from a flood or erathquake, help and minimum delivery infrastructures may take easily 3 days in effectively reach the people in need, is a reasonable amount to recover from the shock having around in average the minimum to survive in the mean time. Worse problems will be waiting for solution but this could save lives and improve significantly circumstances.
They cant say the real number or it would cause panic. 3 is a sensible number people can get behind without causing a run on grocery.
A proper war lasts at least six days.
I think there’s an AI generated chocolate beans meme hidden somewhere.
Here we only have very short wars, because we’ve got other things to do.
Do they usually make chocolate with meat in your country? :)
P.S. Please stop buying Coca Cola/Pepsi/etc. Look for local substitutions.
Wait, what do.you think “vegan” means?
“without meat”
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Just a question for people here who do not have 72 hours of food stored in their homes? Do you go to the supermarket every day? Or do you cook at all? What are you doing on the weekend? What happens when you’re sick and can’t go shopping?
Do you go to the supermarket every day?
There’s 5 food stores <7 minutes away from my apartment,. Why stockpile when you can just walk and pick up fresh food every other day.
What happens when you’re sick and can’t go shopping?
Is that a common occurrence? Just get a friend or family member to shop for you if you’re that ill, or order food delivery.
But don’t you still have some staple stuff like noodles, rice, frozen or canned foods and so on in your house? Combined with the fact that you might buy food in larger quantities (e.g. not just 1 apple, but 6 or maybe 1kg), i’d also imagine that most people have enough food for 3 days in their house.
The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.
Rice and onions are just about the only thing I have that last more than a few days. I don’t buy frozen food as I’ll just buy what I need at the store, 90% of my diet is just bread, eggs, chicken and rice, and 1.4kg of chicken is gone within 2-3 days.
You could always just lower your caloric intake if food became scarce.
The imo more interesting thing would be fresh water.
Tap water quality is great in Norway so water is something I never buy unless I forgot to fill up a bottle on a road trip. I don’t really know anyone other soda addicts that keep liquid stored at notable quantities.
Might happen at the end of month for me. We go grocery shopping with a car at the beginning of the month, but 31 days are longer than my freezer is big and a backpack can only hold so much. So I respectfully ask Putin not to attack on the 29th.
I have 2 days worth of food in my home. 4 days worth of lunch. When the 2 days of food runs out, I buy more on my way home. Same goes for when the lunch runs out. Meaning if I’m caught at a bad time, I’ll have 0 food
I grocery shop every 2 weeks and at any given time I have a month of food in stock. because I live in a hemisphere with hurricanes.
Do you have 72 hours of food supplies that you can use in case of an emergency? When there is no water and no electricity, and you can’t cook mac&cheese in the oven.
I assumed most everyone had at least two weeks of emergency supplies. Like I have a stock of a couple weeks supply of food and water in the basement in case of emergencies, that’s what my parents taught me was the bare minimum in case of emergencies.
Yep, I have four supermarkets and two discounters in walkable distance and it makes me walk and leave the house daily. Plus my back’s not the healthiest and I can’t carry that much anymore.
72 hours of essential supplies. Do you have 72 hours of:
- food (cooked, or cookable? see points 2 and 3)
- stored water (taps out?)
- stored power generation (powers out?)
- medicines and first aid (emergency services outages? communications outages?)
- heat in the coldest months? (see point 3) etc.
You’d be amazed the lack of foresight most have.
When CoViD hit, I was able to avoid shopping trips for nearly six months, due to having a well prepared pantry. At best, I would go every other week to the store for mostly fruit, which is something I find hard to preserve without requiring huge amounts of sugars, of which I shy away, for personal reasons.
Yes, I live right next to a store.
Supermarket daily, mostly microwave stuff.
I eat what I buy. If I buy a days food I’ll eat it in a day, if I buy 2 days food I’ll probably also eat that in 1 day. If I’m sick I wear a mask, if I’m super sick I ask someone to deliver me some shopping but then it is more than a days worth because I don’t want to ask someone to do my shopping every day.
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darknesscanned bread, my old friend72 hours? No problem. Always have a big bag of rice on hand and you’re done.
Only if you have lots of water too. And preferably some way to heat it (though you can totally swell rice in cold water)
This brings up an important point. You should have something like a camping stove running on propane or similar stored fuel.
If the water supply fails you need to be able to cook water for drinking purposes.
A coal bbq could work too and most people have one already, you can use it with wood as well.
Even better, you can use a barbecue chimney starter as a kind of rocket stove.
and water to cook it and drink, and power to heat it?
I don’t enjoy archived links that much, so here is the plan, straight from the EU.
I’m happy I’m growing my own food.
Though I don’t think much will happen to Ireland.
Canada here. Same for us in the food department. though I am less enthused about what may happen to us with yam tits raging downstairs.
Yam tits! That is genuinely a new one for me. Excellent.
I’ll never, as long as I may live, get over the utter embarrassment of being born and raised in a country who could support that maniac. I suppose the worst thing I could do is leave. The only way to alleviate my shame is to stay and keep voting for the least insane option.
I freely admit I stole Yam TIts from another Lemmy user and I can’t remember who or I would certainly give them credit. I feel it gets right to the point one is trying to convey.
I guess it helps that Ireland is an island, though our defence is a joke. Our current plan is to rely on other countries for help.
I read that as 72 days at first and thought something serious was expected soon. Oh, 72 HOURS. Who doesn’t have that?
Also unless you are on the border, how useful is that likely to be? What would the expectation be, only short term supply chain disruption so shops may run out of something in the first few days but after that food supply will adjust to it?
I don’t have 72hrs of food at home, because I have almost no self control. 2 days of food can very easily also be one day of food haha
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To survive the 3day smo you need a battery bank, some candles/flashlights as long as you don’t live on the border.
72 hours of food is just grocery shopping
I’m definitely not prepared.
Without water, gas or electricity, there’s not really much left in essentials I can use from my grocery shopping.
I don’t know about you, but I usually buy fresh food that needs to be cooked, and drink water from tap.
worst case ill just eat my poop
72 hours, the average length of a special military operation.
My grandma lived through WWII and rationing. After she died, we were cleaning out her house to find she had hidden cans of food stockpiled everywhere: behind the washing machine, in the pit in her garage, in the corners of her loft, everywhere.
If rationing ever came back in, she was more than ready for it.
what about fasting? I bet we have enough fat to fast couple weeks at least
It’s not about having something to eat for 72h, it’s about resilience.
That has been the recommendation for civil protection for a while already. Not so much because of the risks of war, but e. g. floodings, power outages, storms etc. And most importantly you should stockpile water, because at a power outage, there will be no tap water anymore. That’s the most important bit people here seem to forget. So nothing new here, actually.
may be is start of ww-3; winter is coming
Develop minimum preparedness criteria for essential services such as hospitals, schools, transport, and telecommunications.
I hope they are taking this point seriously so that privatized welfare no longer gets special treatment.
