If all things were the same, but it was men who fell pregnant and gave birth, abortion clinics would be so standard they’d be on every corner, like McDonald’s. In fact, it’d be a sign of status to go to one.
Male 1: “I’m just off to the abortion clinic real quick.”
Male 2: “Oh nice, King. You’ve been busy.”
Male 1 leaves.
Male 3: “He’s so cool.”
Dude, this is older than you. It’s older than me.
No, there wouldn’t be.
The policy would be the same, because the issue of abortion makes the two ruling parties way too much money to make it worth legalizing or banning completely. Hell, when the leak of the Roe repeal occurred, Democrats raked in $80,000,000 alone. A cool $80,000,000 and all they had to do was pretend to care about abortion by making a tweet or something.
OP is incorrect.
Clearly, we have to genetically modify all men to be hyenas, so that they can experience the Miracle of Life through their dicks. /S.
I need to know more about this.
Wow real life futas, also that is fucked up.
men have the anti-mullerien hormone from the Y chromosone to stop female secondary characteristics during fetal development. rarely there are disorders that prevent that gene from activating or it goes missing and they develop as a female, minus having the extra biological X CHromosone.
Androgen insensitivity syndrome is fascinating. Plenty of people with it grow up female and have no idea their genes are different, until they reached puberty and never get their period.
If men could give birth everyone would tell them to man the fuck up and deal with it.
ok so i might be wrong here, but abortions can be safely and reliably carried out with pills, right?
and it’s very difficult to actually check every package and letter that is sent whether it contains illegal pills. at least that’s my guess. so would it be possible to buy abortion pills from the netherlands, the same way that one can buy drugs?
Correct, but depending on legislation the punishment might be so high that the risk is not worth it for many people.
This would be such an extreme warping of reality that it’s essentially impossible to make any assumptions about what it would entail like this. You know the joke about a time traveller moving a rock? Yeah, that times a million.
This here. If men would give birth, they would be women.
So much of what makes up the differences between the male and female experiences is down to the fact that women give birth.
If it was the men who gave birth and not the women, we’d have pretty much everything we have now, just gender-reversed.
This assumes it simply reverses the roles so men give birth and women don’t.
What if we all gave birth?
what if we all gave birth 👉👈
(???)
In that case, there likely wouldn’t be two separate genders at all, because why would there be? Hermaphrodite species exist, and they usually just have a single gender.
*sex
sexes are not the same as genders and should not be called genders
So, basically that one Red Dwarf episode. Cool.
You never see legislation on condoms.
Just birth control.
When it’s a man’s choice it’s uncontested.
But a woman shouldn’t have the same autonomy.
You never see legislation on condoms.
The Republic of Ireland wants to speak to you.
Welp
Condoms are balloons that just fit your penis, lol. Jk. This world is f-d up.
Not here but in Africa the Catholic Church pushed for total bans on birth control, condoms included, official in some places and socially in others. The result was huge spikes in HIV across swaths of Africa.
Also don’t be surprised if there is eventually a ban on all both control, not because of actual theocratic desire, but because billionaires don’t want us to have any. Deep down they know LLMs will not lead to AI powerful enough to replace all workers, like they were hoping for a few years back, so they know they need human slaves. They use evangelical idiocy to spur up theocratic chuds and convince the masses, they’re one of them. But these assholes have no set ethics or morals, good or bad, just greed and powerlust.
I bet they are planning all sorts of ways to force us to have future slaves for them. Not saying it will work, I think population decline is unavoidable and not that bad tbh, but they will absolutely try.
I know project 2025 has plans for forcing teenage girls to have pregnancy.
Which is illogical even by their standards as babies more likely to be still born and premature from teenage mothers. And pregnant teen girls more likely to have complications resulting in death and permanent sterility.
We gotta get rid of these insane psychopaths before they destroy the planet and everything on it.
Stop doing drugs
Working people of all genders are not getting paid enough.
This is 100% true and factual.
Most likely. Let’s make it happen!
If males were going pregnant they’d be females
Shame women don’t have the same drive and ingenuity
That wasn’t my point. My point was that the world is run by men. Policymakers and politicians are, in general, men. And since abortion is about giving women freedom over their bodies and life decisions, (most) men don’t allow that. Therefore there’s a very unfair disconnect. My point was that if men were the target of anti-abortion policies, then such policies would by and large not exist.
ETA: As another commenter pointed out, perhaps statistically most men are pro-choice, but unfortunately in general the backwards few who go into and succeed in politics are the ones who make the call.
We would just have hysterectomies. Why the fuck would we want such a disadvantage?
Believe it or not, there are some men who want kids.
Old Tshirt/poster slogan I remember from the 1990’s
Deleted by author
I went to a pro-choice march in my city and made a sign that said
“If men could get pregnant
You’d get abortions
With your oil change”And I feel like that makes about the same point. Men wouldn’t tolerate carrying an unwanted pregnancy if men had to deal with pregnancy.
That’s a good quote. Maybe it was rolling around somewhere in my subconscious.
ETA: or maybe I am the cab driver mentioned in the article.
Did you know grey hyenas have a matriarchal society? Females are more aggressive, dominant and hold different social status to males. They aren’t less horrible than patriarchal hyenas.
The problem isn’t the males or the females. It’s that they’re hyenas.
I don’t see hyenas oppressing one another through systems of well orchestrated indoctrination. They may just nibble each other once in a while.
Well they do hate immigrants , so I wouldn’t be so quick to assume.
You’d be surprised of how complex and rich hyena society is.
If men gave birth, then nothing else would be the same.
The systems of oppression that exist were created for a reason. Evil reasons, but reasons none the less. It’s not random.
There is a reason hunter/gatherer societies tend to be more egalitarian, and agricultural societies tend to be less egalitarian, and it isn’t because farming turns people evil and misogynistic.
Furthermore, abortion was largely accepted until increased birthrates were required for the needs of empire. Despite the arguments being religious in nature against abortion, the original drivers for outlawing it were non-religous.
You’re way behind. That’s why laws approved are no longer named after what they really do. Who decides that a specific law harms a specific population? The same people approving them… So… Yeah.
What? No. Laws are never named after what they do, they’re named HR#### or something. Acts are nicknamed, like Obamacare or the PATRIOT act, but they’ve always been political and not descriptive.
And the people who write the laws are not the same people who “approve” them, in theory.
Yeah but If you want empirical & objective quantification of harm, good luck.
And they give birth through a pseudo penis that is torn apart.
I don’t think it brings anything useful to the conversation, but it is an interesting fact.
This conversation is now about hyenas.
Are you a hyena?
Are you not?
