• Prox@lemmy.world
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      What kind of first-world county would let it slip?

      Glances nervously in US

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        We don’t merely let it slip by nowadays. We lube up the grifting slide to make it faster.

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        US? first-world? What? No! It really isn’t. Like health care is worse than some “third-world” countries…

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      Hope so. They’ve been trying to undermine the Swedish job market here, and even fucking stalked their employees. Horrible company.

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            Holy fuck. I’m sorry, if I take a sick day I take a sick day - you might see me out shopping for groceries to survive the day, but I am by no means well.

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              Uhm excuse me. If you can walk and carry groceries, clearly you are well 👏 enough 👏 to work 👏. I’m waiting on those TPS* reports tetris11!

              Them probably.

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            I don’t know if it was all the sick workers, but a lot of those workers hadn’t been to work all year (around September at the time).

            Apparently it’s not abnormal for people to abuse the system there and do things like this.

            There was some stuff about patterns of a subset of workers taking Fridays off sick as well.

            So it doesn’t actually seem as outright bad if they were investigating abuse. However, if it was just a random person being sick, that would be very bad.

            Edit: This is a terrible source I’m sure, but just an example that its a prevalent problem and there’s even a business up about finding out if people are cheating the system - https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2024/12/30/germanys-sick-leave-detectives-are-on-the-case-as-absenteeism-hits-records-and-company-pocketbooks/161436

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              the thing is: the employer has absolutely 0 say on if a person is sick or not. If a doctor says a person can’t work: that’s it. The company 0 in the matter.

              In fact, the company isn’t even allowed to ask why a person is sick. An official note from the doctor is all that matters

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              I’m sure other EU countries have variations on this but in the UK this has already been legally decided. If somebody is abusing the sickness system you document it, you confirm it via the terrible Branford system, and then you hold them in for a meeting.

              You don’t randomly turn up at their house, there is absolutely no justification for that and it is a stalking crime for them to do that.

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              I would love to know how much is spent trying to catch people trying to game the system, compared to lost compensation because of sick leave.

              Past a point, they must surely be spending more hiring this whole team of detectives than they would be just letting the workers take Friday off.

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                Yes, that reminds me of when Florida(?) started requiring drug testing for welfare recipients and ended up spending more on the tests than whatever they saved uncovering fraud.

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                That would be interesting ya. I don’t think there would be any way to recoup the cost for the person calling is sick on Friday semi frequently or similar things, but for the people who are gaming the system and didn’t work for a year, if they found a way to abuse it, it’d probably make sense if you truly were that suspicious.

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    Maybe keep your shitty politics out of your shitty product next time, and then you won’t face political consequences.

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      In this case it looks like they commited fraud, so it’s not even just political.

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      I wonder if there is the possibility of the shareholders suing Elon because what he’s doing is so demonstrably damaging the company. He could totally have done this and not had the big PR problem by just not doing random stuff without running it past anyone. But nooo.

      People weren’t happy about him essentially buying a governmental position but what they really objected to is all the subsequent things he did.

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    Trump calling this “Domestic Terrorism” and threatening Tariffs in response in 3… 2…

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    Hopefully, this amounts to a fraud investigation and shareholders dump their stocks and cause Musk to fall below the margin call and then he liquidates and Tesla goes to rock bottom.

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      Doesn’t he only own like 13% of the stock in Tesla? His wealth is barely affected by Tesla going bankrupt

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          Yeah I’m just shilling over here pointing out facts that it takes more than bankrupting Tesla to financially hurt that psycho…

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              Key thing here is it’s in 2020… it isn’t anymore since the whole xitter debacle which forced him to sell most of his stocks in it.

              Tanking Tesla now unfortunately doesn’t have even close to the same impact as it would have if it happened 5 years ago.

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    Option 1: Tesla fraudulently filed rebates

    Option 2: Tesla filed a backlog of rebates when they realized they had to

    Both are possible, but everyone is jumping to conclusion that it’s option 1, while option 2 is the easier answer.

    Also the government said they’re going to let all the other rebates that this pushed out at the last minute get the rebate regardless of if these were legit or not.

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      Option 2 should be easy to prove, so why didn’t they do that already, like literally the same day they were accused of it? Then their funds wouldn’t have been frozen.

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        I imagine they probably don’t want to release the information that would prove it if they could, and if they did it’d be redacted enough that no one would believe it anyway. It also costs money to fight endless things like this.

        Ultimately, if the government comes back and says its legit, then people will believe it. If it’s fraud, there should be punishment.

        That whole 1.5 billion accounting fraud story last week, I don’t think Tesla said anything official about it or done anything at least to specifically disprove it, but the FT has now retracted the story saying they made a mistake.

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      Maybe they shouldn’t have kept a backlog then? That certainly sounds like a ‘them’ problem though, doesn’t it?

      Doesn’t strike me as very efficient either

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    Canadians taking on the Nazis they should send canned food to tesla next.

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    What’s going on in Quebec?

    The federal government is following the same strategy as some provinces. British Columbia has recently banned Tesla products from its EV charger rebate. Nova Scotia just announced that it has excluded Tesla from its $2,000 rebate at the purchase of a new EV.

    Quebec just relaunched its own EV incentive program today. It will come into effect next week, and so far, Tesla’s Model 3 and Model Y vehicles are still included in the list of eligible vehicles.

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    after what US has done tariff wise I’m surprised that they haven’t blocked all US companies from it.