More than 110 Palestinian prisoners have died from torture and mistreatment since Itamar Ben-Gvir became Israel’s security minister. Now he wants the power to hang them.

  • watson@lemmy.world
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    Because a swastika would be too on-the-nose (this unforgivable piece of shit admitted as much when confronted by a reporter)

    In possibly the greatest historical irony, Israelis are the new Nazis

    As an American Jew, I am HORRIFIED by this, and everything else Israel has been doing for the last several years

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      Hopefully you mean several decades, or even 100+ years. Nothing they’ve been doing now is particularly new to them. Maybe just a larger, louder magnitude.

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        The state of Israel is not even 80 years old.

        You should study some history

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          I have. Enough to know that Zionism, and Zionist militias pre-date Israel, were folded together to create the IDF, and were doing fucked up shit then, and continue to do so now. Maybe you should study some history yourself.

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            Yet, you’ve still failed on the very basics of the situation.

            You just googled Zionism. You have now proven that you don’t know shit about it, beyond what Google tells you.

            Google =! Research

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              You don’t know shit about what I know and don’t know.

              I’ve read up enough on the Irgun, Palmach, Haganah, Herzl, Jabotinsky, and Ben-Gurion (among others) to know what I need to, thank you very much.

              Not to mention that all the shit that was stolen from my family by Zionists.

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                You don’t know shit about what I know and don’t know.

                Yet, you are perfectly comfortable, making the same incorrect assumption about me. Hypocrite.

                I’ve read up enough

                You have googled enough to prove to everyone here that you don’t know a goddamn thing about what you’re talking about. This little tantrum of yours only reinforces that

                I suggest that you go cry to someone who is stupid enough to believe a word you say. You won’t find that here.

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                  I never claimed to know what you know.

                  I just hoped that if you did know more, you’d be horrified by a lot more than just “the last several years”. That’s all I meant with my first comment. And since you claim to know so much, I’m disappointed that you’re not.

                  If I’m so wrong in my knowledge, then please, go ahead and correct me. I’m open to being wrong and corrected, but you’ve pointed out nothing where I am in fact wrong.

                  Because in my understanding, it is factual that Zionist militias were operating in the 1920s (100+ years ago!), 1930s (most of the action was after the Arab Revolt in 1936), and 1940s until the state of Israel was formed, after which they were dissolved and mixed into the IDF. I haven’t made claims beyond that in this thread.

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    Why are Israeli lawmakers wearing gold nooses?

    To symbolize that they need to be hanged for crimes against humanity?

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    It’s time we stopped pretending that Israel was a little pocket of Europe and recognize that it’s a brutal theocratic regime. The biggest difference between Israel and States like Saudi Arabia and Iran is the branding.

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      I stopped. I was very pro Israel back in the day. Even said “well Israel wants to divide the country while hamas wants all Jews dead… I have to side with the Jews”

      But then they did a genocide and it’s like “well there goes that theory”

      No one likes to be wrong but what’s worse is continuing to be wrong after you know.

      I don’t know the solution but I’ve changed my mind on the problem.

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    Itamar Ben-Gvir became Israel’s security minister.

    Fun fact:

    In the days leading up to the attack, that guy was spending his time giving interviews about how spitting on Christians is a harmless tradition that needed to be protected rather than discouraged

    He was such an extremist at 18, that he was banned from joining the IDF even though they force people to join.

    And that’s not even getting into his connections to assassinations and car bombing…

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    Ben-Gvir himself should be tried and punished for his participation in the conspiracy to murder Yizhak Rabin.

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    Because even the distilled evil that is Ben-Gvir can’t help but look like a pathetic edgelord in an attempt to look tough