If you build a factory someplace, the factory consumes a lot of resources and can be a nuisance. But in return, it provides jobs; at the very minimum. Going beyond that, usually someone in the corporate heirarchy is smart enough to realize that building good will with the neighbors is important and they encourage the employees to give back to the community to that end.
The actual impact may vary but if nothing else, symbolic gestures that say, “we know our presence here has an impact and we want to make sure it’s a positive impact as much as possible.” tend to go a long way in terms of winning support and acceptance from the community.
Data centers consume lots of resources and can be a nuisance. Unlike other operations, they provide very few long term jobs and give basically nothing back to their host community beyond that. They take far more than they give back. If the “geniuses” who run these tech firms spent less money lobbying politicians and instead offered to pay for the college tuition of every student who successfully graduated from the local high school, they would probably get a very different reaction from the public.
Factories also produce tangible products
If the “geniuses” who run these tech firms spent less money lobbying politicians and instead offered to pay for the college tuition of every student who successfully graduated from the local high school, they would probably get a very different reaction from the public.
Yeah , they could do a lot with their wealth. Unfortunately they are stupid and selfish. They’re playing a dangerous game and eventually they’ll roll for guillotines.
Well the people with money don’t care about people. They lobby the politics so they can fuck you over and you are ordered by law to like it
even R voters are up an arms, they specifically built them in republican counties to avoid regulations. pollution, air temperature increase, electricity consumption, is hard to ignore.
I pass an anti data center yard sign quite regularly that is featured right next to a pro trump yard sign. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
I would think any human would be opposed to a bunch of machines sucking up all of their water and energy just to make a very few people rich and powerful beyond their wildest dreams. I’m still not convinced that it is beneficial and why is the tech/business/media world pushing this so hard? Value means a happy community, not owning a yacht for your private island.
They increase the cost of consumer electricity and water; they increase the temperature of the local area; they generate (in some cases) heavy metal pollution and (in most cases) sound pollution.
What’s not to love? ;)
And CEOs are using ai as the new excuse to not give raises on top of mass firings. They’re really expecting thank you cards?
trying to get right wing govts to adop sureveillance AI, and India to help build the datacenters in the country.
Not to mention the probably worst part is that they needlessly consume energy which could have been used for actual useful purposes, adding more carbon emission at a time when we desperately need to lower that for the sake of not burning our own fucking planet.
It looks like some of them even threaten to render the region the occupy uninhabitable for humans, too! A lot of people are really concerned that the global invasive human epidemic, so they might like that.
Not to mention some idiot decided to put these water-pollution factories in places that historically have limited access to water and right now are experiencing one of the worst droughts of all time (at least in the top-5). People are a little protective of their precious water at times like these.
We all knew that this century’s history would come to be dominated by the Water Wars. We just never realized that AI would be one of the major combatants in those wars.
And they raise the prices of consumer electronics.
Also air pollution because quite a few are gas-powered (mobile units). Elon Musk’s among them.
The 10 year almost complete lack of regulation for all things AI might have something to do with it.
Gotta admit, my strong feelings about them didn’t start til my power costs doubled out of the blue
What’s not being mentioned enough is they’re mainly being used to collect more data on people. It’s mass surveillance mascaraing as AI.
Americans don’t know how to fight AI so they’re fighting data centers instead. You’ll notice folks who don’t care about climate change or brown kids with cancer taking an interest in this fight.
Americans don’t know how to fight AI
Tell us then, o wise one. How do you fight AI?
Molten steel, usually.
Tell us then, o wise one. How do you fight AI?
probably with their smug sense of superiority.
Which ironically are 75% not AI.
Thank Kevin Oleary
Building a 62 sq mile facility
Everyone hates that fuck
That is despite huge propaganda campaigns by tech giants and the government in favor of them mind you. Everyone who experienced what it‘s like living near one absolutely hates it for many reasons including health issues from the noise and vibration. Anyone who doesn‘t already got a taste of it when utility bills climbed up.
Not hard to figure out why. There‘s an oil crisis and these AI bro fucks keep constructing giant diesel engines to power the giant data centers. Everyone else loses.
That’s the problem we have locally. No one wants these things, but local government keeps trying to push them through anyway because all they see is tax dollars.
There‘s an oil crisis and these
they are selling our strategic reserves overseas while Iran is not over and we running low every day.
I cant believe this.What’s even crazier: Only 20% of the world’s oil production is affected. That means 80% are still available.
It would be trivial to save 20% of oil, but we just don’t want to.
People are driving just as much. There’s no push to home office. No push to make people stop buying crap they don’t need. No push to decrease flying or anything at all.
Instead, offices are still uselessly illuminated all night. Useless ad screens are playing at any time of day, burning precious fuel for no purpose.
We still throw away 30-40% of the food we produce. We still don’t have a massive push to pivot to renewable energy.
Collectively, we don’t care about energy shortages, and politics and companies don’t either.
Instead, we just price the poorer nations out of competition. We can afford gas at €2/l, and we don’t care that entire nations are collapsing right now because they can’t afford fuel at all.
I honestly can’t wait for the first people to set fire to these things. There’s no way the US people will stay complacent forever right? At one point someone will snap, no?
Sure, any day now
I’m willing to bet it correlates with shortages and price increases.
The CEOs of these companies boast constantly about these technologies replacing workers. Those same rich fucks support active efforts to cut social safety nets to increase their own tax cuts. So people don’t trust them or the future they are building and don’t want to support it. This, on top of the myriad other negative impacts of data centers - what exactly is in it for us?
The U.S. AI roll out is reckless and sloppy - prioritizing speed of development. Meanwhile China is focusing on efficient coding and development based on practical use and spending a fraction of the cost. American is creating an AI bubble unlike any bubble our economy has ever dealt with sitting on top of the greatest government debt in history. When it pops, the government will be too leveraged to bail us out. The rich will jump ship to their tax havens and the people will be saddled with multi-generational austerity. This is the end of a long road of corrupt business interests and billionaires strip mining the wealth of the USA.
Fuck capitalism.
Meanwhile China is focusing on efficient
codingmodelsChina coding is most often even worse than US coding.
I guess I phrased that wrong. I meant efficient coding as in coded to not be as processor intensive or bloated. Efficient models as you state. Thank you for pointing that out.
But it is America who enabled the tech companies getting to the point where they are
Did they stop filling polls with AI generated answers or something?
It’s all topology, man. Well, technically entanglements, really, but you read The Buddha et al, right? Christ said the same ish - Server, Client, Holy Internet - just different pedagogy, just as occult leaders have done to teach the hidden throughout history.
Americans as a whole are really fucking slow. The slop factory “industry” should have been eighty-sixed for its waste of resources before they ever built the first data center. It’s not like the costs weren’t known from the start.
Even if the specific costs weren’t known, it would at least have been obvious from the start that they would be impossibly large.
It’s a huge waste of money at this point, and the technology will become rapidly antiquated. The depreciation will be insanely high, while the software that’s requires it becomes much more efficient. At this point we already have enough data centers, we just need more efficient software and smarter usage.
