If you believe plants experience suffering, and would like to reduce suffering, you should go vegan. The reason is that by eating meat, you kill or harm way more plants — the plants that have been eaten by the animals you eat.
To be clear: I am not disagreeing about introducing more plants to replace meats and other unhealthy stuff on a health and economic perspective. That path of awareness is not what im having a problem with.
What i am disagreeing with is that you or anyone who is eating plant based is using the reasoning that you’ve absolved suffering overall somehow by going vegan. this path of thinking creates a problem for everyone you cannot possibly solve.
This is suggesting we must only ever hold an awareness that to live is to suffer and continue imposing suffering on others. And it doesnt matter what you subsitute. It is all suffering from the consciousness perspective if everything is made of consciousness in order to exist. everything you ever consume will have held conscious in order to exist.
you will never find a solution to that while you exist as a human that requires to consume consiousness to continue to exist.
Can you cite the scientific study that or the philosopher who says with so much confidence that plants (or even animals, for that matter) have consciousness? Don’t get me wrong, my personal belief is closer to your statement, but I have always held that as belief, not fact.
Are you holding me to a higher standard over all the scientists who currently exist whom still cannot prove let alone agree upon where exactly in the body that human consciousness exists?
I’d almost take that as a compliment if I didn’t believe you are severely mislead on the certainties of human consciousness enough that you had any ground to call into question plant (or animals, for that matter) consciousness.
If you believe plants experience suffering, and would like to reduce suffering, you should go vegan. The reason is that by eating meat, you kill or harm way more plants — the plants that have been eaten by the animals you eat.
I think the point is that we all eat food, and at some point in it’s production, some suffering happened. and that’s alright
this is the peak of privilege
why won’t you leave me alone
I tend to respond to bad takes.
leave me alone
dude, I don’t even know you. I see nonsense and I post a reply. feel free to block me if you want.
you’ve been stalking me since January. stop
get over yourself, fr feel free to block
To be clear: I am not disagreeing about introducing more plants to replace meats and other unhealthy stuff on a health and economic perspective. That path of awareness is not what im having a problem with.
What i am disagreeing with is that you or anyone who is eating plant based is using the reasoning that you’ve absolved suffering overall somehow by going vegan. this path of thinking creates a problem for everyone you cannot possibly solve.
This is suggesting we must only ever hold an awareness that to live is to suffer and continue imposing suffering on others. And it doesnt matter what you subsitute. It is all suffering from the consciousness perspective if everything is made of consciousness in order to exist. everything you ever consume will have held conscious in order to exist.
you will never find a solution to that while you exist as a human that requires to consume consiousness to continue to exist.
Can you cite the scientific study that or the philosopher who says with so much confidence that plants (or even animals, for that matter) have consciousness? Don’t get me wrong, my personal belief is closer to your statement, but I have always held that as belief, not fact.
Are you holding me to a higher standard over all the scientists who currently exist whom still cannot prove let alone agree upon where exactly in the body that human consciousness exists?
I’d almost take that as a compliment if I didn’t believe you are severely mislead on the certainties of human consciousness enough that you had any ground to call into question plant (or animals, for that matter) consciousness.