A JetBlue flight from the small Caribbean nation of Curaçao halted its ascent to avoid colliding with a US air force refueling tanker on Friday, and the pilot blamed the military plane for crossing his path.

“We almost had a midair collision up here,” the JetBlue pilot said, according to a recording of his conversation with air traffic control. “They passed directly in our flight path … They don’t have their transponder turned on, it’s outrageous.”

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    So when are the western nations going to speak out, condemn and discuss about sanctions against this like they do when CCP tries to threaten Taiwan near south China sea?

    They aren’t hypocrites, are they?

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    Two near misses in Curaçao airspace already. Dangerous shit. This is reckless. If something happens, it’s 100% Trump’s fault.

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    Nothing will happen because it’s US military, but shame on those pilots because you know THEY saw the JetBlue coming their way, knew the route they’d take, and didn’t give a shit. They didn’t even have to say anything, just change course.

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      The US military has had many incidents where it was sloppy as shit. I wouldn’t completely write off the idea that they might just be a lot more incompetent than most people think.

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        That’s comforting that they could be that way and be running silent from ATC and other aircraft anywhere. What could go wrong?

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          It’s not just US aircraft. Most military aircraft have the ability to turn off their transponders. That’s kinda SOP when flying a mission.

          The main difference with many US military aircraft is that they have a tiny radar cross sections, so ATC can’t “see” them, not just can’t “hear” them. That refuling plane should have shown on radar, transponder or not. That thing is literally about the size of three barns, not the nuclear physics kind, and literally can’t have much in the way of radar stealth the way the plane it was refueling probably had.

          The other main difference here is that normally our joint chiefs, and secretary of defense war don’t have their head up their asses about OPSEC. Normally such an operation would have not come anywhere near civilian flight paths, but these assholes literally said that the troops should be “drawing fire.”

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            Civilian aircraft can also turn off their transponders, not that it’s relevant.

            ATC not having radar is not an issue, the US military most certainly had multiple radars in range. They could tell the tanker to divert way earlier. They wanted an incident.

            As for normalcy, the US is part of a small group of countries that has shot down civilian airliners.

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            Most of the world doesn’t have decent primary radar, especially out over international waters like where this occurred. Likely just a low frequency radar that can say “yup, there’s something out there” but not “he is right there.” The world works on transponders.

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            Right. I actually don’t have an issue with them not having a transponder on. That was the least of the problems. But not being aware of standard traffic around an airport… come on.

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    Unfortunately, nobody will care til there’s a crash and even then, it might be old news in a week or two.

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      Kind of surprising to see this take after the 2025 elections.

      It seems to me that watching a dozen or more former Trump districts lost to Democratic politicians is fairly good proof that people are dissatisfied with his leadership and governance, and the even wilder thing is that Donald’s aggression toward Venezuela has actually served to draw up some resistance in Congress. (So much so that both Donald and Hegseth are trying to establish a fall guy.)

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        You can’t really be serious. You think a few local elections have anything to do with Venezuela?

        I got news for you. The USA has been attacking Venezuela since GWB was in office. Literally every president has done something against Venezuela since then. Most of it has been coup attempts and collective punishment to starve the Venezuelan people. But no one gives a shit because even Mamdani says shit like Venezuela is a dictatorship.

        No, Americans are JUST fine with bloodshed as long as the president follows a narrative that makes the US look like heros.

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      Worse, they would use it as pretext for “retaliatory” strikes.

      Those are still coming, no doubt, but they’ll have a harder time spinning the story.

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    Nothing beats a JetBlue holiday…

    Except for the USAF, it seems.

    (yes I know the original is Jet2, not JetBlue)

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      Curacao, Aruba and Bonaire are literally within sight of Venezuela. How do you expect them to function? This flight was connected to Curacao, not Venezuela. They can’t help being right next door.

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    So they were 3-ish, maybe 5 miles away with altitude separation over international water? That’s actually fairly routine.