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    23 days ago

    Care to explain that little bit of bias? ‘Just one is enough’

    u arent real. Yeah one murder that should have been prevented and wasnt bc of a stupid law is enough to say the law is stupid. Are you having issue undersatnding this ?

    we already established you don’t really give two shits about state discrimination

    No we havent and it wasnt even the subject.

    just tell me why a religious exception for carrying a weapon isnt an issue ? All you said was something related to epstein that isnt even the subject. You also said it was a right wing take. Omg

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      Gain saying isn’t an argument

      I’ve told you what would convince me: show me data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem murder weapon in the UK. I’m waiting, you can do it at any time. The power to convince me is in your hands, you just refuse to do it.

      That’s a reasonable ask I think. I believe the UK does have an issue of discrimination based on ethnicity due to data. Makes sense to apply the same standard to kirpans.

      All you said was something related to epstein that isnt even the subject. You also said it was a right wing

      That’s right, I did say it was a distraction by the Epstein class to distract you. Oh boy have they got you distracted.

      I then showed you what you’re being distracted from.

      It’s a common MO. That’s why Farage, with significant ties to the Epstein class, is banging on about it. It’s why the media, owned by the Epstein class, is banging on about it.

      Look, we aren’t getting anywhere. You have your outrage that I don’t think is convincing. I have my data, that you don’t think is convincing. Ultimate

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        I’ve told you what would convince me: show me data that kirpans, in particular, are a problem murder weapon in the UK. I’m waiting, you can do it at any time. The power to convince me is in your hands, you just refuse to do it.

        Do u realize you said that in the litteral convo that is about a murder made by a kirpan ? what data do u need ?

        Your shizo rant about subject that have nothing to do with this matter is detrimental to what you think u defend.

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          Do u realize you said that in the litteral convo that is about a murder made by a kirpan ? what data do u need ?.

          I am sorry for this, data is not one case. Data is a collection of information used to inform decisions. Look at the report I linked showing discrimination from british police, you see how it’s informed by more than a single case? I thought you knew what ‘data’ was, that’s my bad. Singular is datum, I really wish the right wing would assimilate and learn English.

          If we’re going by single cases, Jo Cox would have justified us pushing every right wing person into the sea. That’s bad right, you understand how knee jerking over one case is bad?

          Oh look, ‘just one is enough’. Not for you, not really.

          If anyone wanted any more proof of how disingenuous you are: I have repeatedly told you what would convince me, you haven’t done the same.

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            23 days ago

            just tell me how a legal exception to carry weapon based on religous belief is fair ? u are the one incapable to answer that simple question so you conitnue to derail the conv in any direction to not answer that simple question

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              Then you retreat back to distracting from the Epstein class robbing you blind. No, I’m not falling for your, culture war, outrage nonsense. Take it to someone more gullible. You want to discuss an actual, and measurable problem in the UK? Wealth inequality is right there. Let’s talk about actual problems facing our country, or are you going to continue to run cover for the Epstein class?

              Oh look more right-epstein class connections

              You have shown you do not care about discrimination based on ethnicity. You have shown you do not care about deadly weapons. You have shown your ‘just one is enough’ was empty grandstanding, or worse targeted against Sikhs. You do not care about political murders. You are incapable of discussing anything in good faith.

              I do not care that Sikhs have kirpans, I have expressed that many times. I’ve told you what would convince me otherwise, because I am convincable. You are welcome to convince me otherwise at any time.

              Tell me, did you just learn what ‘data’ meant today?

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                I do not care that Sikhs have kirpans

                Then you dont care about ppl being abble to carry weapon cause the law made them being abble bc of their religous belief. And so if you are stupid enough to support this then im pretty sure you have nothing to said about anything.

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                  The person that didn’t know what ‘data’ meant is in an awfully glass house throwing words like ‘stupid’ around.

                  Yawn. I’ve told you what would convince me otherwise. You can provide it at anytime, and I’ll change my opinion. Because apparently, it’s stupid people that form their opinions based on data.

                  Or, you can keep running defence for the epstein class with this silly culture war nonsense.

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                    23 days ago

                    Lmao

                    Na you don’t understand my religion allow me everything you accuse me off

                    D u have data to tell me if it s bad that I do it ? Dont think u have mate