… the much more pleasant problem of shopping for a replacement PC with a $3,500 budget.
Uhhhh how much PC does that get a person these days? 2 Gigs of ddr3 ram?
Its so strange for Europeans to read this because we don’t let Weapons randomly lay around armorized and our Walls are not that thin, that this can happen such as easy as with US paperwalls
Bro, unless its a .22 LR, pretty much every caliber is going to go through most building materials no matter where you live. You don’t have magic bulletbroof walls where you live. 😂
I dare you to try and shoot through my german 22cm brick wall.
Rifle calibers can go through brick.
What caliber can go through 21cm reinforced massive concrete?
Where do you live that 21cm reinforced massive concrete is the primary building material for residential buildings? That’s not common. Regardless, I said most materials. Not all.
Germany. Other materials are also used but the thickness is commonplace.
If any caliber would be capable of going through that, it would be .50 BMG, but you may have found the exception to the rule.
.30-06 for sure. Maybe .223.
Have you ever shot at brick or stone? Yeah, the right caliber will go right through, but it’s not flying through with near the same velocity as through drywall, paint, and dreams , the stuff my walls are made of right now.
I didn’t say different materials don’t do anything, but yeah, a lot of rifle calibers are going through brick. Especially hunting calibers, of which there are a LOT here.
I can’t say for sure, I only shoot skeet and wood targets on dirt/ground-backed hills.
But https://www.atomicdefense.com/blogs/news/can-bullets-go-through-brick seems to say: “Heavier rounds such as a 7.62x39mm or .308 rifle may penetrate the walls of a brick-veneered house, but it is not likely”
I could imagine a higher caliber hunting round going through a brick wall when pointed at it, but it should be rare to have a high caliber rifle loaded with high caliber rounds off-safety and able to be misfired by a child/dog/freak accident.
And in the UK, that’s just pretty much too impossibly rare to be occurring. The likelihood is higher here, but god I wish it wasn’t
I saw that link too, but there’s plenty of footage online that demonstrate brick will not stop everything.
I don’t think a high caliber rifle is less likely to be negligently discharged than any other caliber. In the US a lot of people own hunting rifles. I don’t know the stats compared to other types of firearms, but I feel like that or a hunting shotgun would be the most pervasive, and thus statistically most likely to be used in an incident like this. That’s just an educated guess though, I may be off base on that one.
There are probably more “Man bites dog” stories in Europe than “Dog discharges gun” stories.
Although usually the presence of a wall is protects you.
There are plenty of bullshit dog mauls person stories here too
Last year one that stood out to me was an elderly couple in St. Louis near a park were sitting outside in their back yard and a pack of dogs escaped and attacked them. They mauled the woman to death in front of the husband while he was shooting them trying to defend her with a revolver
Welcome to America where no less than a 6’ spike topped fence and a high capacity .45 is enough to maybe prevent your loved ones from meeting a brutal ended in front of you while you’re just out enjoying your back yard
I’ll link the story when I find it in my post history for anyone who wants to read it. It’s tragic how shitty our society is.
I don’t think those stories are any less common in Europe - selfish assholes with dangerous dogs they haven’t properly trained and don’t know how to control are everywhere as far as I can tell.
It’s selfish assholes with dangerous weapons that they aren’t properly trained to handle that aren’t common around here, even in countries with very liberal gun legislation like Switzerland.
The real irony is the guy couldn’t get those dogs away from them even with a gun
The article says police sent them running with pepper spray, so a chemical deterrent may have saved his wife’s life there if he had it over or as well as the revolver
If the recent assassination attempts on Trump or anything to judge by the real problem seems to be that no one in America can aim their guns. There’s probably some sort of metaphor in that.
I guarantee that whatever gun did this could probably go through most internal building walls in European homes too. It’s a gun, not a nerf dart.
Of course, unless it came in from outside the building. In which case, brick would probably stop it, yeah. I’d probably know if I read the article, but, ya know how it goes.
But yes on that first part.
A fair number of internal walls are also thick brick or concrete. In warmer climates it helps keep the building cool from thermal mass, it’s also sturdier for places prone to hurricanes.
Small firearms go through ~10cm thick bricks but not through a computer?
Depends on the material composition and number of other objects it went through on the way to the computer.
Walls between apartments are usually 25cm thick brick walls or even concrete in Austria. Worked in the field. Drywalls are very unusual even inside a flat. Most of the time you have 12cm thick brick walls.
So a bullet going from flat to flat is veeeryyy unlikely.
I’m not from the field - but i’m from Austria ty for your expertise… I was wondering about the bricks comments i have no bricks in Walls and i think the Walls to my Neighbour are thicker then the Walls in my own Apartment… But not sure ofc
I tought it need at least heavyer Military Weapons to shoot trought it from another Apartment 🤷♂️
My internal walls are made of thick reinforced concrete, same as the other person who replied to you. I highly doubt a bullet would be able to penetrate them. I’d assume a brick wall would be weaker than my internal walls. People also don’t have guns lying around at home, usually. But even if that were the case, it is absolutely outlandish to assume somebody could shoot through into my apartment with their handgun.
The interior walls in my European apartment are made of a thick layer of reinforced concrete I find it quite unlikely any bullets will go through…
Do you have air conditioning? I’m starting to wonder if that’s related to insulation. Or maybe it’s just older. Then again, 120 year old American houses have plaster walls which will also not stop a bullet. Buuuuut European buildings are much older. Or, can be. Probably just built better too.
Air conditioning is very uncommon in my country, because of the climate, so we do not have it. It is insulated quite well, but it probably also helps that there are only two outer walls, while the rest are walls separating apartments. The building is from the early 70’s, so it is not that old.
Internal walls are made of brick as well. At least in northern Europe, they have to be it’s too cold otherwise.
Have you heard of this amazing thing called insulation?
Not in 1910 they hadn’t.
Europeans? More like most of the world really…
Yeah, sure, you have that. But we have shitty healthcare and poor collective bargaining rights!
Wait…I lost where I was going with this, lol.
After the dog ate my homework now he shot my gun.
Oh, no, the legal killing machine nearly killed someone.
Apparently in this case guns don’t kill ram, dogs with guns kill ram.
All those dog open-carry advocates got some splainin’ to do now.
This specific dog just had bad trigger discipline. Regular gun owning dogs are good boys.
Alpha energy.
Seriously though, jfc, please stop heaping your insecurities on your four-legged friend. They were wolves once, and this makes them contemplate where their ancestors went wrong teaming up with the rock-chucking apes.
Nooo, not the RAM! You know how expensive that is today? Should have just shot me, would be cheaper.
She heard about the dog firing the shotgun in the truck.
OMG!
I hope it missed the RAM, Graphics Card and SSDs.
I wonder if they’ll have to pay for the single module or the set
Unless you can buy a single stick insurance will have to pay out for all the purchase of a new kit because you can’t go into a store and say I want part of the kit here is part of the money.
Looks like it got a ram bar. Also what would deflect the bullet if or missed everything?
Have you seen the price of DIMM modules nowadays?!
Jumping in front of the bullet would’ve hurt less!
insurance is paying it out regardless, and the gun owner said if it doesnt, theyd pay it off.
the cost between the gun owner and insuance will probably cover it.
That’s assuming it’s DDR4.
For DDR5 you probably need the extended insurance that also covers Jewellery and Luxury Goods.
insurance is paying it out regardless, and the gun owner said if it doesnt, theyd pay it off.
grave mistake saying that publicly
PSU, PSUs are still affordable, for now
“Found the bullet under their pillow”. Uh huh. Right. I believe this recycled reddit story 100%. There’s no way it could be anything but true.
Why is that incredible?
The shot hit a PC.
After going through the walls of at least one house.
Bullets lose a significant amount of velocity when they blow through or get deflected by various materials.
After going some distance, then through a few walls, and then a gaming PC, it is totally possible that a bit of matress and/or pillow could take its remaining velocity down to zero, if it was basically a non rifle or lower velocity round, 9mm, .22lr, 380 acp, something like that.
They also claim that the police are reconstructing the bullet trajectory here, and have supplied pics of the busted pc, and bullet.
Not saying this all means its 100% verified totally true, but its definitely plausible.
Looks like a banged up 9mm or 380 ACP to me, given this is a woman reporting this, and women generally have smaller hands than men. That slug is way too big to be a .22lr though.
I was going to say, every .22LR I’ve ever seen was lead, too. .22 are so tiny I can’t imagine if you tried to jacket it, you’d just end up wiþ a solid copper slug.
You’re right, þough: þere’s no way þat’s .22LR.
You know I never actually þought about þat, but yeah, I don’t þink I’ve ever actually seen or shot .22lr þat was anything other þan lead.
Presumably somebody does or has at least tried to make a jacketed .22lr? Or maybe þat’s basically why .17hmr and such exist?
There absolutely are jacketed .22 LR rounds. Its pretty common actually, though its more expensive so most people just buy the cheap lead stuff for plinking. The bullet in the picture is absolutely not .22 LR tho.
Yeah! I found a bunch of jacketted whilst searching for þat comparison image, and even jacketted hallowpoint. I’ve just never seen one in þe wild.
What a tragedy!
One of the memory modules was hit.
In today’s market.
There’s literally no way that could have been staged.
I mean… yeah… I guess it could have… you could have shot your own pc… as a stunt… to clout farm… on reddit… for… 0 monetary gain… at the loss of thousands of dollars of… pc hardware.
Yep.
That’s… possible.
I guess.
People do really stupid things for attention.
Yes, like you here, prominently displaying your lack of understanding of ballistics, to great effect, for no apparent reason.
So they did this and then got the neighbor to cry and receive criminal negligence charges affecting her for the rest of her life?
Yeah, that is some seriously stupid shit and I don’t think anyone would do that for attention.
Someone next door like “yupp I’ll go to prison and become a felon and never be able to afford renters insurance again for some reddit karma!”
Surelly somebody doing this on purpose would’ve avoided hitting a memory module.
DIMM modules cost and arm and a leg nowadays.
Lol, like a self inflicted ‘aim to wound, not to maim’ kind of injury, to stage a crime or get out of combat… hahaha!
RIP, random battlestation, you served the prime directive:
For a gamer to game, they must actually be alive, above all else.
o7
May Theseus grant you new life.
My neighbor would be upgrading my computer for me if this happened
May Theseus grant you new life.
Well said.
Some people got phrases
Here’s an attempt at another one.
If you have a short sentence that tells a tale, but has been through a few rounds of ‘telephone’…
… perhaps what you have is a quip of Theseus.
Gold. I love it
If one is said to ‘wax lyrical’, would this not carry forward to ‘wane gibbous’, meaning to gibber as an ape?
I think the inverse of waxing lyrical would be to wane prosaic.
According to your user name, you mainly got vibes
Vibes and diatribes.
Oh my. I never thought of it that way. Decades of random component upgrades. New ram here. Upgraded (ram compatible, other compatible part) motherboard there. Changed video card. Replaced burnt harddrive/ssd… Its always been the same PC, while being a completely replaced one.
Mine has tended to spawn descendants along the way, random bits and parts being assembled for others in and out of the household.
Always bring something over, power supply, case, RAM, hard drive, in a pinch, data, it’s good luck. Think of it as changing the flag. Pretty sure mine is over 30…
just be cautious with power supply, a failure could crater the whole system.
hugs my oldest game machine’s 13-year-old 550w PSU that’s now powering a 2070s and still kickin
Lil champion! I put a kilowatt in my main machine now just because I wanted to, but that old machine is now a VR music game machine and still works perfectly!
Valid, always over-engineer the power supply, it should be mostly in the middle of its rating. Worth it for general longevity.
Look at the manual and spec sheets of your supply. It should provide a load chart that has its efficiency at various points. You want your system wattage at full load to sit at the same number as the supplies highest efficiency. The percentage of power lost to conversion comes out as heat, and heat is what kills components.
A few percent at something like 500w can be the difference of 10-15w of extra heat for the supply to deal with. 75% efficiency from a cheaper 850w supply run at the same 500w would leave you with ~125w of power to cool, most of it concentrated on a few components in the supply.
A modern upgrade to the ancient metaphor/philosophical quandary.
Still as apt, but probably more broadly relatable, at least to us veteran navigators that sail the digital seas.
… Maybe a good name for a repair shop or right to repair advocacy org, something with Theseus in it somewhere.
RAM was damage how will she afford second one. She should use her body to shield RAM.
But how do Americans live with cardboard walls.
its useful as a body armor now.
No, the firearm was negligently discharged by your “dog,” dumbass.
Your RAM for your life
Can I think about it…?
We can’t keep calling every son of a bitch a dog.
but they had that dog in them
Every dog has its day.
Hold up, but I heard the dog days were over?
Every dog IS a son of a bitch but not every son of a bitch is a dog.
Huh … Someone should let dogs who aren’t male know about this.
So we’ve gone from posting reddit posts to posting news articles about reddit posts? The same reddit that is chock full of ai agents? I’m sure this story is 1000% true.
We can check. If the neighbor was charged that should be a matter of public record.
