It’s much better here! It’s nice and cozy, kinda like Reddit circa 15 years ago.

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world and if you’re a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch, if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz, !biology@mander.xyzand !astronomy@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo there’s always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

If you want to explore the world of PC Gaming on Linux check !linux_gaming@lemmy.world or for more general Linux !linux@programming.dev and we even have a Linux meme comm at !linuxmemes@lemmy.world (we like Linux around here lmao)

For news !world@lemmy.world is excellent and for US focused news !news@lemmy.world and !usa@midwest.social

Want to ensure your privacy in this crazy world? Checkout !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And of course, the best for last, the best comm on the Lemmy-verse, !bikinibottomtwitter@lemmy.world !!! Just make sure to buy a krabby patty!

We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on what’s known as the Tankie Triad: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For the most part, grad and hex are widely defederated from (Users and content of those instances won’t be “synced” and you won’t see them) and you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. .ml tends to be more subtle opting for censorship of dissent before things get crazy on their threads and allowing certain propaganda to flourish (If you wish to see documentation of it, checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

Obligatory, fuck Spez

  • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
    152·
    3 months ago

    Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

    Saying it again to everyone in the back. The modlog is a great feature. Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      25·
      3 months ago

      Couldn’t an instance admin just disable modlogs or spoof them, though

      • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        586·
        3 months ago

        Yes, but the backlash would be undoubtedly intense, everyone here loves the modlog (well probably not the trolls/tankies LMFAO)

          • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
            71·
            3 months ago

            Isn’t the whole thing about public and harsh punishments in authoritarian societies to keep everyone in check?

            • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
              4·
              3 months ago

              its also to hide and shield your atrocities, punishments from the public, hence they dont know whats going on so its easy to claim any story you made up.

          • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
            78·
            3 months ago

            the tankies/MLs are the biggest downside of lemmy, they prefer insults to discussion and have a very stalinist approach to moderation/administration. they are the spez of lemmy

            oh and they spread russian propaganda like jolly traitors

            authoritarians have always been the same

            • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
              71·
              3 months ago

              Keep in mind that not everyone on ml or everyone with leftist leanings is a tankie. Yes, there are a lot of tankies there, but ML is a general purpose instance and some longstanding lemmy users simply have their accounts there

              • jimmy90@lemmy.worldEnglish
                66·
                3 months ago

                i was referring to the fundamentalists, wannabe revolutionaries and myopic protesters

                if you have a main account on .ml to bait MLs then fine, but it might be time to make an account elsewhere. all the MLs that want to troll the rest of lemmy have done the same so they don’t bring the instance into further disrepute

      • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        20·
        3 months ago

        For their own instance, sure.

        But it won’t alter the modlogs of other Instances, which also have a copy if the community is federated to them.

      • ninthant@lemmy.caEnglish
        17·
        3 months ago

        Because of federation the lock-in is much lower and we could move to a new instance due to a rogue admin.

    • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      3 months ago

      Eh, you say that.

      Image of post
      • The post title was something like “What is your ideal political system”

      (I’ve since deleted my comment just in case I doxxed myself elsewhere)

      • When I click on the link for that post it says the post was deleted.
      • When I look at the ModLog for AskLemmy@lemmy.world, there’s nothing there in that time period
      Image of modlog

      So either there’s some funny shenanigans going on at lemmy.world, or more likely maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances, or…?

      • Rentlar@lemmy.caEnglish
        9·
        3 months ago

        The main thing you need to know the username of the OP who posted it. Chances are they were banned, had their account deleted or deleted the post themselves. The comments in the post is collateral damage in deleted/removed posts. It has happened to me and it does feel bad a bit since comments of deleted posts and children of deleted comments do not appear in the modlog. The idea though, is that the main OP who has been actioned against has recourse. The process certainly can be improved but its still several steps above Reddit in transparency.

      • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances

        The modlog is vulnerable to the same federation issues that all Lemmy content can suffer from.

        Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

        But also, like all federated content, you won’t see modlog entries on your Instances modlog if they’ve defederated from an instance. So you won’t see hex/grad modlog entries on .world but you can from .ee for example

        • Muehe@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

          I believe this depends on what community it happens on. If the community is on ml, then ml moderation actions will be copied by world (or any other instance showing that community), but if it happens on a world community then ml moderation actions stay on ml.

        • tetris11@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          Do you see a different modlog for asklemmy@lemmy.world as I’m seeing in that screenshot then?

          • cm0002@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            3·
            3 months ago

            I checked 2 other instance modlog’s, and didn’t see them there.

            I did notice “*Permanently Deleted*” for its post title, which is usually indicative of a total post purge (Deletes all content from a post, pictures, comments everything. Normally, an uploaded picture can hang around on an instance directly accessible by its image url), but it’s supposed to be reserved for really bad shit (read: illegal) you don’t want hanging around in an instances DBs

            That being said, even permanently deleted/purged stuff generally does show on the modlog, at least an entry that just says Permanently Deleted, so that is a bit concerning.

            Id suggest putting together your evidence into a post for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com maybe you can catch the attention of another instance admin, maybe of db0 themself and they can look into it more (admins of other instances have special visibility into some things)

            Edit:

            I just realized you participated in an asklemmy post, not made one yourself, I was searching incorrectly lol

            Yea there are a number of other things that can happen in that case like blaze said, OP deleted the post, deleted their account, was caught posting really bad shit and their account was wholly purged etc

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      121·
      3 months ago

      Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

      That actually isn’t true, they can disappear it for normal users. I’ve had things disappear at LW and when I called it out, the shitty admin dude went after me. Also, if you delete a thread, it disappears. That’s the one thing the bad place did correct up until I left, it might be different now though. They kept the threads up even if they shut down the thread. Now, it just disappears.

      • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        There are instances where deleting content permanently is a good feature, like for illegal content and spammers.

        A way to list what was disappeared entirely and the reason for it would be good for transparency. Like if a comment/thread is deleted for illegal images just having a note in the modlog that it was deleted for illegal content would be good even though the images won’t show. .

        Spammers might still clog up the modlog though, but there could probably be a way to consolidate them or something.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          3 months ago

          I agree. I think the bad place had a warning page if it was deleted for violent or abusive content. Otherwise, it stayed up. Again, it might be different now though, I haven’t been there in years now.

  • FourWaveforms@lemm.eeEnglish
    43·
    3 months ago

    Reddit has turned into a real fuck of a fuck over the last few weeks. It was a bad omen when they started charging for API access, but that was just a preview. They’re in full-on enshittification mode now.

    You get shadowbanned for unspecified reasons, without apparently breaking any rules. They do cute shit with vague error messages rather than tell you what’s up. Zero actual communication.

    They’re also busting people for upvoting super mario kart jpegs for some reason, but when they do that they actually tell you.

    • trolololol@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      3 months ago

      I up voted a Mario Bros Luigi jpg and a few days later my login doesn’t work.

      That’s actually the outcome I wanted, this is a celebration not a rant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
        4·
        3 months ago

        I moved across the country and lost my pristine 12-year old reddit account a few years back because at least one of the mods of the local city subreddit here is a psychopath who followed me across multiple subs harassing me, seemingly for being too vocal about homeless advocacy, eventually getting me permabanned from the site by literally making up a report where there was no mechanism for me to protest.

        Since then I’d been making burner accounts to use the site, but they’d been surviving fewer and fewer weeks until a few months back they started getting immediately shadowbanned. So I said fuck it, why do I even want to be wallowing in a cesspit like that? It’s way past fediverse time.

          • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.netEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            Ugh! That conditioned, kneejerk, almost PTSD-style assumption that all questions are bad faith setups for a debate is one of the most toxic things about this format, leading to long chains of argument where both users are just talking past each other in reference to subtexts in the other’s comments that they’ve completely imagined. I do still encounter that here on Lemmy, but at this point I think a lot of Lemmy users are specifically trying to escape that sort of environment so it can usually be diffused by just stating plainly that you’re not setting up a gotcha. I do think this tendency is something we have to actively push back against by showing compassion and stating plainly up front what we want and why at the expense of maybe not feeling as cool as we would otherwise.

    • GreatAlbatross@feddit.ukEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      Error messages on Reddit: “Oh no, there’s something wrong!”
      Error messages on Lemmy: “Haha, I accidentally stopped docker, sorry!”

      We even have a community for talking about what goes on behind the scenes: !backend@feddit.uk

      • FourWaveforms@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Theoretically, but it would only work on one instance (server), and that would put an instance in such bad odor that other instances might not want to peer with them anymore.

        Ironically, it would be likely to get that instance isolated from much of the network, if not all of it. That behavior is detestable to many who came here.

  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    3 months ago

    Wait so Reddit is taking action against moderators who block X links on their subreddits? Wow! That’s draconian as fuck!

    I hope we get a big influx. There’s so many small subreddits I like which have no Lemmy equivalent!

    • Sixty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      41·
      3 months ago

      I left after…one of the meme subs last year managed to mass ban bots. Went from one of the most active subs to nearly dead instantly, including upvotes and comments.

      That was so disturbing I finally quit.

  • stonkingwind@lemm.eeEnglish
    29·
    3 months ago

    Here for The Great Reddit migration. People left Digg for Reddit for similar reasons. Although the issues with Reddit are magnitudes more concerning.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      3 months ago

      Reddit has magnitudes more inertia, unfortunately. And a predominant sentiment seems to be “we should stay on Reddit to counterbalance the bad parts."

      Or even worse, move to Discord :/

      • TheOgreChef@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Discord makes feel like an old man shaking my fist at the clouds. The UI is the worst, and I have no idea how anything works, but I have to be on it because my friends use it for in-game chat on multiplayer games.

        I never feel dumber than when I’m trying to find something on Discord. Ugh.

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          I think its interface is pretty good, but it’s structure absolutely sucks for larger communities. It’s a deliberate information black hole for shooting the breeze, yet people treat it like a forum, wiki, or hub,.

      • Sixty@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        31·
        3 months ago

        Or even worse, move to Discord :/

        reddit got worse faster after IPO.

        Discord is now doing the same, so that’ll last a few months lol.

      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldEnglish
        31·
        3 months ago

        I’m sure you’re right, migration here won’t make much of a dent in reddit’s numbers. It’d be great to have more people to fill out some of the smaller communities but we don’t need the ones who don’t want to move.

  • Rose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    3 months ago

    I remember Reddit after I started using it, around the time of the Digg exodus. It was a fun community of nerdy people. Just doing some things because it was cool.

    A few years later, I had the weirdest feeling that that vibe was gone. That both behind the scenes, and more overtly, they had to be prepping for accommodation of corporate interests. A little bit of officially sanctioned promotion here, a dash of ignoring guerrilla marketing there.

    And for several years now, it’s not even subtle anymore. Reddit does what some dude with money bags says must be done, users be damned.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      13·
      3 months ago

      by 2016, the enshittification was appearing, because of trump 17 is when the bannings of accounts for the slightest disagreement became noticible, around the same time illicit subs became a target of bans, because GOP complained.

  • MrEff@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    3 months ago

    I would love it if reddit clamped down on free speech. Please reddit, just lay it out on what else you want to limit. Let the people know what else they can’t say. Or even better- force people on reddit to make mandatory posts praising billionaires. It would make my day. Please reddit, put more gas on your dumpster fire

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      3 months ago

      Or even better- force people on reddit to make mandatory posts praising billionaires

      I’m pretty sure they already have bots that do that.

      • Troy@lemmy.caEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        We will eventually have bots like that on lemmy and other federated networks too. It wasn’t long between the advent of email and spam email. (spam predates email – the term is from the BBS era…)

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          3 months ago

          They’re here, but they’re obvious when they post so they get buried. I’ve seen them make their own posts with built in upvotes, but real people just ignore it. It’s not that huge of a problem yet. I’m sure it will be when they build up enough accounts, that’s the only way they can get any traction at all.

          • Troy@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            They’ll have to split these accounts across many different instances for it to be effective. Else it’ll be too easy to defederate with instances that allow too many spam accounts.

            • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              3 months ago

              Is this something on their radar yet? I would think it would be easier to do it here because you could have separate accounts on many instances with even the same email.

  • InTheDoghouseAgain@lemm.eeEnglish
    191·
    3 months ago

    Thanks for making us from Reddit feel welcome I can se i am going to like it here

    I got banned from Reddit because I made a suggestion on what should happen to a violent dog that attacked a family member

    No free speech on Reddit

    • FourWaveforms@lemm.eeEnglish
      6·
      3 months ago

      I was seeing pretty normal-looking accounts disappear in greater and greater numbers in the couple of weeks before they zapped my account. Couldn’t figure out why, just a lot of comments or threads only hours old, and the users were already gone. Couldn’t figure it out at the time.

  • thingAmaBob@lemmy.worldEnglish
    15·
    3 months ago

    Deleted my Reddit account when I could no longer use Apollo, but still kept up with a few subs for certain info. Finally discovered Lemmy and after being here for a short while I’ve nearly stopped visiting. This news has given me the push to be done 100%.