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sanitation@lemmy.today to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 13 days ago

MIT Study Finds Gas Cars Aren't Secretly Better For The Planet Than EVs, Despite What Everyone On Facebook Says

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MIT Study Finds Gas Cars Aren't Secretly Better For The Planet Than EVs, Despite What Everyone On Facebook Says

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MIT Study Finds Gas Cars Aren't Secretly Better For The Planet Than EVs, Despite What Everyone On Facebook Says - Jalopnik
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MIT's researches found that EVs save 40%–60% of emissions compared to gas cars, with that going up to 90% in urban driving.
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    Everyday a single vehicles emits enough pollution to kill countless people.

    Considering that since there are over 1.6 billion cars in use worldwide, I think if each one killed more than one person per day there would soon be none of us left.

    Collectively they do cause some 246,000 deaths each year, from pollution alone, with several times that figure being attributable to motor vehicle collisions. So I do think the regular use of fossil fuel vehicles needs to be phased out, along with a drastic reduction in personal vehicle use in general in urban areas and the implementation of systematic safety principles in road design.

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      Try seeing how long you can suck on a car exhaust and live? My point stands.

      Lead in gas in cars wasn’t even phased out until 1996 and only in 2021 was is declared officially over. Meanwhile the entire planet has been blanket by lead leading to startling facts like burning wood releases a ton of lead.

      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/may/15/wood-burning-for-heat-reintroducing-lead-pollution-into-the-air-us-scientists-find

      Our entire ecosystem needs a EPA style Superfund cleanup. Hundred of millions of people have already died just from lead. The lead left over in our environment, mostly from gas burning, kills anywhere from one to five million people every year to this day.

      That means thirty years since leaded gasoline was first banned we have lost anywhere between 30-150 million people. This lead is not going away as demonstrated by the trees.

      I swear we have lost close to a billion people from pollution in the last 50 years or so. Lead is only an additive, we haven’t even gotten into all the problems with the rest of it. Petroleum is a huge part of this loss of life. This is the true cost, a future of environmental degredation.

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        Try seeing how long you can suck on a car exhaust and live? My point stands.

        And you’d sink and down pretty quickly if the world were made of pudding.

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          Are you okay?

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        My point stands

        But your stats are from your ass.

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          Are you acting obtuse on purpose?

          https://healthpolicy-watch.news/96476-2/

          https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/11/20/1213841798/a-new-study-says-the-global-toll-of-lead-exposure-is-even-worse-than-we-thought

          As I said the range is anywhere from 1-5 million a year.

          You can take your petroleum apologist nonsense somewhere else. Imagine someone bootlicking when then know millions of people have died and will continue to die.

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            If you want to argue scientifically, you have to be precise.

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              You’re doing the facebook boomer thing btw.

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                Which is what?

                Note, I’m not disagreeing with the guy. I’m helping them make better arguments.

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                  Constantly moving goal posts in order to discredit a true fact because the way it was presented is not precise. This isn’t a scientific debate. This isn’t a paper. It’s a generic social media forum and people generally understand, barring any social development conditions, that exaggeration is acceptable as long as the general idea is true, even hyperbolic exaggeration. Everyone does this constantly in normal every day conversations. Conversations don’t stop and wait for you to look up something that ultimately is at best a minor correction, because it’s not needed and frankly its silly.

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              Oh god you act really dumb.

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        Try seeing how long you can stay underwater and live?

        Every water kills billions per water!!!

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          Please try to stay on topic.

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            Please try to use your brain.

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              Don’t be jealous that I have one.

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                I admit that I am. That makes it even more embarrassing for you though.

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                  I am not sure what this is, but you guys seem to behave really dumb. Like incredibly. Is it your kink or something to act this stupid?

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                    Are you mad?

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