• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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      every passing day i feel increasingly gratified to have switched my previously win11 laptop to linux mint. aside from the sheer principle of microsoft being ass, i also fucking despise all of windows’ AI bullshit. Fuck copilot for eternity.

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        Just be sure to check support before buying any newish laptop. I really like my ASUS Duo Pro 2024, but ASUS adamantly refuses to lift a finger for proper Linux support for special features. Even the audio chipset which is standard somehow doesn’t work with default kernels due to something they’ve done. Dual screen can be made to work with some scripting-fu, but the keyboard’s multimedia keys just don’t work at all.

        Vote with your wallets and be noisy to those brands who don’t support Linux well. Let them know if lack of Linux support was why you didn’t buy.

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          This is purely anecdotal but my last pc build was ASUS mobo and its absolute shit tier. I promised myself never to spend another dime on anything ASUS ever again.

          I got it cause it had good reviews. Asus ROG strix. I should have stuck with my gut and gone MSI or Gigabyte.

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            MSI have dropped AMD as a GPU partner as of this generation (funnily enough - also the same generation they had proven to be their highest selling!), and their next generation of PSUs have dropped PCIe 6+2 for whatever the current HPV12 implementation is, so they’re in my shit-list too.

            Gigabyte’s warranty support has been ass in the past (at least in my region), and their 3000-series GPUs were prone to overheating due to poor quality thermal pads. Oh, and their PSUs were sub-par and prone to exploding!

            I think ASRock is the only ‘Tier 1’ brand (that I’m aware of) without massive controversies in the past few years?

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              ASrock is ASUS. I don’t trust their quality. They are on the same level to me as Razer products. The lowest of the low in quality assurance.

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                I remembered reading somewhere that ASRock started off as ASUS ‘budget’ brand - but had since been spun off into its own entity.

                I thought that meant that they were sold off, and were a completely separate company now - but it looks I was wrong, they’re still a subsidiary. 🙁

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                  I think I’ll just go to RadioShack and solder my own board. Every company is shit these days. 😔

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            ASRock is my go-to now. Funnily enough they split off of ASUS a while ago. One continually got better, and the other worse.

            Edit: I was wrong about that last part. I thought they had split off, but apparently they are a subsidiary. Well, either way, they seem better.

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      I like seeing these posts, non issue now that im on linux, need more ppl to swap to help the piracy ecosystem

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        I’m waiting for things like HDR to work properly on Linux - once it’s as easy to mod and play games on Linux as it is Windows I’ll be making the jump.

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        Lots of the most best tools for desktop Linux are free and open source, so you really don’t need to pirate desktop software. As far as multimedia goes, I generally find it much easier to sail the seas on Linux as opposed to Windows where everything felt hacky and difficult to isolate.

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          Oh you said multimedia, thats definitely easier if not using something like stremio which is the same level of ease

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          Lmao if you find an open source tool that competes with houdini, let me know. I found it extremely easy to pirate on windows, it takes a long time to find a crack on linux, if I do, it is usually out of date.

          I have only pirated davinci resolve studio on linux and some blender addons, like 25% dont work, while I had a ton of pirated software on windows. (marvelousdesigner, embergen, houdini, davinci openfx addons like redgiant, borisfx syntheyes, touchdesigner, resolume etc.) A lot of stuff that adds up to 1000s of dollars a month for hobby stuff that I use sporadically.

          Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

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            Im not even gonna try to learn music creation again, just assuming ableton and flstudio would both be issues.

            I understand that more conventional software is proprietary and not released natively for Linux, but it seems unfortunate yo me to let proprietary software stop you from making art. Ive got friends who produce music exclusively on Linux machines using qtractor, which is free and open source, so there’s no need to crack it. I can’t speak for the rest of the tools you mentioned but maybe it would just be worth exploring some of the Foss options to see what you can do with them? I haven’t bothered cracking software since I made the move over to Linux because I just haven’t found any piece of my workflows that actually depends on non-foss software. Turns out tools developed by the communities that use them rather than corporate entities typically turn out to be pretty good.

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              Everything you’re saying is more a reason to swap back to windows than stick with linux, you ltierally have less options with linux all of the linux options still work on windows

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                Call it fewer options, I call it curated options. Yeah, I don’t get to install every piece of software I could on windows (though that list is shrinking really fucking fast), but i also don’t want to. I don’t need to put energy into cracking adobe software so they can steal my licensing and farm my data to sell or train their AI on.

                I don’t want to use a drill that only works with screws that are officially approved for DeWalt drills, and I don’t want to hack a DeWalt drill to make it work with other screws. I want a drill that fits whatever screw I want. People aren’t switching to Linux because of the vast amount of software available for it, it’s because it’s the option that actually respects us as consumers.

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      My work laptop has W11. It’s…fine. But I don’t have to manage it, so… ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

      I had W11 on my personal gaming PC for a total of 6 months before I got fed up with it. Running W10 until I make sure it’ll run everything I need it to on Linux Mint (LMDE).

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    We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.

    Any windows fanboy cares to explain how this supposedly enhances a user’s security?

    The spin on requiring an internet connection being phrased as ‘ensures all users exit setup with internet connectivity’ is amazing too.

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      Not wanting to seem like a windows fanboi in the slightest, but… I guess they’re saying that if you log in to your windows box using their cloud authentication, then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements… and because they’re in a position to see all auth attempts against that account, they can react to attacks and patterns of attacks… having said that. a lot of those advantages go away if you’re not actually connected to the internet… but then, you also lose timely updates by not being connected… it’s a difficult question… I can see how it could be better for a non computer-savvy user to log in using a microsoft account, but also worse and more frustrating for advanced users who don’t want to touch microsoft’s cloud at all. I guess they made the decision based on what was better for the majority of users. If you’re upset by this, you’re not really their target audience.

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        That’s what they’re saying - it’s not true, but it is what they’re saying.

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        then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements…

        if that was the goal, they wouldn’t be saying on the password input screen to “choose the most simple password”, and especially they wouldn’t accept that field to be left blank

        if you are not logged in, they can’t setup onedrive to automatically steal all pictures and documents of the unsuspecting user, and they can’t setup bitlocker with a cloud key that they could use to lock you out of all your data when they think so.

        windows update has zero reasons to not work without an MS account, and actually it does work that way.

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        Thank you

        Y’all is this true:

        No one would accidentally enter the special anti-spyware command so they’re screwing the 1% who are privacy hawks without benefiting the 99% who were already dark patterned into online accounts.

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        It’s like when they say “We value your privacy” it really means “Selling your data is worth a lot of money/value to me”.

        “User Security” means “We want to secure customers/users for our cloud services by forcing a login to a microsoft account”

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    I’ve got my first son or daughter on the way, I’m thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS

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        Uh… what? They only thing they have in common is following the POSIX standard. The moment you step outside of that POSIX lowest common denominator, it becomes abundantly clear just how different they are.

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        I mean compared to some elements of windows, yeah Linux is more similar to macos. But compared to other elements of macos, Linux is more similar to windows. But to say it’s super similar to either one in particular is kind of missing what makes each of them what they are.

        Macos and Linux skills and fluency aren’t significantly more transferable than between Linux and Windows. They’re three pieces of software that ultimately try to do the same thing, but go about it in drastically different ways. There are only so many ways from your house to the grocery store, so some of them are bound to cross.

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        The only difference I see both try to follow posix macos follows the unix specification linux doesn’t and that’s about it

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    The command (C:\Windows\System32\) OOBE\bypassnro (.cmd) one types into the command prompt (after opening it with Shift+F10) for the bypass is the location of a batch file they will be removing (the parenthesized parts are optional, implied by the command interpreter, and so is any capitalization). You can still do whatever it’s doing (adding a registry key and restarting) by typing the command manually or providing a copy of the file on a USB drive. After a restart, the OS will check for the registry key AND lack of internet connection to provide the local account option.

    For the record, the contents of the file are

    @echo off
    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
    shutdown /r /t 0
    

    The first line is optional, and so is the third if you’re OK with restarting manually. If creating the file on Unix-based systems, make sure the newline sequence is CRLF (DOS/Windows standard).

    Obligatory shoutout to literally any Linux distro, which does not need this workaround, and is usually easier to install and set up than debloating a fresh Windows 11 install.

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      Until they remove checking that reg key from all versions other than maybe enterprise. If they decide that running windows requires an MS online account, they can keep bumping up the difficulty of running it without whenever they want.

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        They are keeping around so many deprecated features for internal use and whatnot, I would be surprised if they did remove this registry check.

        Until Windows 12 is released, you can always use an old ISO and then update to the newest version.

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      Thank you! I’ve bookmarked this for next time I have a Windows reinstall! Hoping it still works then…

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      If Microsoft keeps fucking up at every turn, it seems like at some point the only thing that’ll keep them afloat is workplace/education investments in their environment. Seems like they’re even losing their grip on being the default OS preinstalled on non-apple PC hardware and the advantage that provided.

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    I put this in another thread: It’s not a big deal. They’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


    @echo off

    reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

    shutdown /r /t 0


    You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

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      I will copypaste your comment next time people complain Linux is hard to learn.

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        if someone says linux is hard to learn, that person isn’t making regestry edits.

        That said, windows used to be intuitive, but they peaked with xp and it’s been a downhill slide since.

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      A bitch to remember compared to the bypassnro though.

      Well, who cares. I’m never installing Windows again anyway.

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        You know, if you copied those three lines into a text file, then saved it as bypassnro.cmd, you’ll have solved that problem.

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      I’ve had issues with the installer from 24H2 for my unattended. I had to use the previous versions installer and installed the 24H2 ISO.

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    Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?

    Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.

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    I’M OKAY WITH MAKING A WINDOWS ACCOUNT. I’M JUST NOT OKAY WITH MY ~/ PATH BEING C:/Users/Jacobuedhbcuycbdhh55674c4bhdncy6448774/

    THIS CAN ONLY BE FIXED BY CREATING A LOCAL USER AND THEN SIGNING IN

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      Is that how it is these days? If I log with my Microsoft account on a Windows device, the username used is only part of my first name. It always annoyed be that it was cut in a very unnatural way and I had no way to change it. I searched for some way to fix it and what I found said it was auto generated way back in the first time I used it on a windows pc and that it was saved in my account in some attribute that nothing ever updates.

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    How the hell are we supposed to install it without a Internet connection? I worked in a company that was so hard on security that only certified machines were allowed access to the net, so virtual machines were not allowed to access the LAN and therefore the Internet. Generally not a problem as we just used them to test software on different OS versions, so no Internet required.

    This change disallows all offline installs. What is their gain? Are they that keen on our data or are they planning to use the connection to a Microsoft account for something even worse than just selling personal information? I could think of a few reasons and none are nice…

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      They are indeed just that keen on our data.

      They know they can’t get rid of it for all of their customers, but they do want to make it as hard as possible for random users to do so.

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      I’m sure there’s a way around it for institutional customers.

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    This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity

    And what if someone doesn’t have internet connectivity?