I work at Meta. They’ll spend 1/10,000th of that on lawyers and lobbying instead. There’s a zero point zero percent change that even a fraction of this gets paid.
And the states suing know that too - it’s just politicians trying to grab headlines.
Shut them down. It would be a huge net win for people everywhere. It is horrible seeing friends, family, clubs and institutions all captured by meta. They are a blight on society.
does zuckerborg careabout human feelings, no hes trying to mimic humans.
They can’t keep getting away with this, they can’t. This has to stop
It won’t. I have almost zero hope.
Zuck Sux
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don’t know why.
Zuck: They “trust me”
Zuck: Dumb fucks.
Don’t be a dumb fuck, do not trust Zuck.
This is why I never made a Facebook account, seemed pretty clear to me.
It’s so crazy that this came out and is widely known and even people who know about it keep using his service while he is still CEO. Some segments of the masses are truly beyond saving. I guess Zuck wasn’t wrong about them being dumb fucks at least
Fuck that guy
I wouldn’t, he’s ugly
What about for 1 million?
PLEASE God let there be SOME way for Trump to PROTECT this BILLIONAIRE!
-Republicans trying to Save The Children TM!
Get owned fuckerberg
Meta has literally been responsible for a huge swath of misinformation. The sooner that company dies, the better.
Facebook and instagram shutting down might be the greatest thing to happen to society in the last 20 years
that was obama
Yes,
and there have been replacements. WhatsApp, Twitter, BlueSky, even Mastodon should probably die. And that waste of goddamn space Pinterest, whose only purpose is to hold someone else’s image in a lower resolution and sometimes have any information or source. It’s just a dead end for research.
My mother-in-law at least used to use Pinterest for pulling together ideas for decorations, arts, and crafts. It seems to help her find inspiration. I figure if it is making a difference in how someone is living their life, it had at least as much merit as the bullshit that pervades most of the Internet.
True, for anyone like me who sees it as a detriment there are folk like your MIL whose life was improved by it, and I’m glad she finds it useful. And if/when it does shut down and she’s still into crafts I hope she finds a decentralised alternative that won’t succumb to the whim of shareholders.
Maybe I’m too autistic but I just never could understand pinterest. I think it has something to do with like the same thing that femmes do where they devote do much time and energy into their appearance and judging others appearances. It don’t make no sense to me, kind of like the difference between doing something nice for someone so that you can get something and doing something nice for no reward. What good is either?
Go back to 4chan.
Calling women femmes is about the most cringe inducing way to admit you’re a misogynist there is.
Oh sorry, I was trying to be inclusive of trans women
I’d argue you were correct - it seems more accurate to me to say that ‘femmes are pressured to worry about their image’ than ‘women…’ as many women unlearn the lesson that they must portray a certain version of themselves, whereas femmes generally conform to it willingly, hence why they’re ‘femme’. Therefore, the women that are excluded by the term ‘femme’ are the same women that don’t fit the criteria of using Pinterest for their self image…
But this nuance with woman/female/femme is one of the more complex aspects of modern conversation. Last decade it was there/their/they’re. FTR: Am transwoman, am femme, felt included :)trans women are included in the category of women
femmes would actually exclude some women
Oh, I’ll edit
I’d WhatsApp could be broken back off of them then that would be great.
Not surprised at all. You guys keep using Instagram and Facebook like you always did.
I’m American and quit using both in like 2010, thank you very much.
Same and I’m European.
Corporations make an addictive and dangerous substance so it is obviously the fault of addicted individuals
Don’t you go throwing accusations around like that.
Anyone remember why they became Meta in the first place? I don’t exactly but there was huge news at the time that they were burying. I think it was a whistle blower that was exposing this exact story or something like it.
Just negative publicity in general. Facebook had become a shithole for boomers and Zuck had some controversies to bury.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-59083601
“The move follows a series of negative stories about Facebook, based on documents leaked by an ex-employee.”
“Frances Haugen has accused the company of putting “profits over safety”.”
Context: Facebook didn’t have good security measures for user data back then, and not many people cared. Then Cambridge Analytica happened. Facebook was fined a pittance, and went back to business as usual.
Over the years, people started pointing fingers (they were slow to do so, since in a way, this was every Facebook user’s fault). But eventually, Facebook became one of the most hated companies, alongside big oil and war profiteers.
Keep in mind, Facebook is one of the first companies ever to blatantly take and sell your data for profit. Their success story and eventual incorporation led to many others copying their business model, which led to the enshitification of the internet as you see today. Hence why Zuck’s infamous conversation with a colleage became so well known.
On that note, rebranding works pretty well against the public. Nobody outside the legal system has time for corporate renaming shenanigans. The average joe is not going out of their way to keep track of names, so they will just give up and move on with their lives. People forget.
The hated company stops being hated, profit train keeps a-chuggin’.
Meta scandals are almost as frequent as Palestinian genocides.
I’m not optimistic. Sure there have been (and will be more) settlements, but substantive policy change at the federal level is desperately needed.
If you know someone who teaches young people, go talk to them about how kids are in the classroom now. The teachers I know tell stories of kids who can’t focus for more than 60 seconds, or answer a question when the answer is literally written on the board in front of them. They can’t function without AI, and even worse, challenge teachers to explain to them why they need to learn something when AI models can do it for them. And administrators pressure teachers to just move these kids along despite their deficiencies. This is all on top of the well-documented mental health problems experienced (and likely caused by) social media use.
This is, in my view, already a crisis and I have the sinking feeling it won’t be addressed in any meaningful way until the widespread social consequences are undeniable.
i realize im completely out of touch with kids lives these days, but its hard to believe its really that bad with chatbots in school. like it sounds like hyperbole, so if its really that bad the next few decades are gonna fucking suuuuck
They are indeed going to fucking suck. Eventually these kids have to try and do actual work.
If we could focus our schools on one single thing, it would be Critical Thinking Skills. It’s how humans are supposed to think, but it has to be taught, and it has to be practiced. Everything else can be looked up on Google, but Critical Thinking Skills require active intervention to learn. Critical Thinking Skills allow us to immediately recognize and reject nonsense like propaganda and scams, and make proper decision based on facts, not vibes.
Those who don’t have Critical Thinking Skills adopt other chaotic methods of thinking, like Faith-Based Thinking, where you choose to believe anything an accepted authority tells you, no matter how outlandish. Or they embrace conspiracy theories, or fall prey to cults, like Mormons, or MAGA.
Conservatives are actively fighting the teaching of Critical Thinking Skills, claiming it encourages children to challenge/ defy authority figures, which is a healthy thing in a healthy society. The real reason is that it teaches people how to recognize their insidious propaganda, which is so vitally important to MAGA success. If people start seeing that propaganda for what it really is, Conservatism is doomed.
Everything else can be looked up on Google
I think that there actually is value to rote and memorization. Adding more knowledge to your head expands the possibilities for what thoughts you’re able to have in a way that outsourcing to Google never could. My best example is GPS navigation vs mental mapping. A while ago, I stopped using GPS during my drives, instead spending some time to look over the map and memorize the directions before I set out. Since I started doing this, I have a much clearer mental map of the places I drive through. I can use my mental map to plan efficient outings, since I have a good idea of what places are close together and when/how to take alternate routes to avoid traffic.
The other problem with leaving things to Google is that it makes you less self-reliant and diminishes your ability to unplug from the internet and think and act in the real world. Sure you can use Google Translate, but actually learning a foreign language allows you to participate in conversations, appreciate jokes, and see the world through the lens of the relationships baked into another language (e.g. you see sparks and fireworks as “fire-flowers” because you know the words hibana and hanabi).
Also, analogies and examples form an important underpinning for critical thinking. And the best way to seed a student’s mind with examples is to make them read a lot.
This is exactly why they don’t want people to disconnect from the Internet. More eyes on things constantly translates directly to as revenue, which then translates to stock value and company valuation. It all boils down to money. If they make people so reliant on technology that they cannot think for themselves or carry out basic life functions without technology, then they’ve done their job.
While there are so many memes about millennials, etc., they are the last generation to be able to read paper maps, drive stick shift cars, use computers, cook, clean, navigate, have grit in place of instant gratification, think for themselves (at least the non-indoctrinated ones), do things without AI, amongst other things.
The newer generations are so heavily reliant on technology and AI that they cannot do a single thing without it. Even social interactions between them are very surface-level or nonexistent. We’re doomed.
If we teach kids to think critically it will undermine all the zero tolerance policies
Good. Break them up. Criminally charge their leadership.
This. It’s not enough to just break up or dissolve the companies. The people who profited and ran the company must see prison time for shit like this or it will just keep happening.
Steal food, 10 years of prison
Enrich yourself by actively harming the most vulnerable part of the population, the monetary equivalent of aslap on your wrist and 6 months of community service.
The justice system is intended to keep poor people in control and rich people at the controls.
