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I hate those “pervert glasses” so much. You don’t need to have a camera in your glasses. Just wear normal glasses.
imagine being someone who just escaped a very violent situation and they need to stay safe and off the internet
then this shit happens
Good. Anyone caught wearing those in public should have them knocked the fuck off their faces…
I dont think this is deserving of violence, shouting “YO THIS PERVERT IS CREATING PORN OF ME ON HIS GLASSES” and making a big scene of it should be fun
No the reason they are too scared to wear them is because of the threats of violence.
No threat. Promise.
“Wasn’t he looking at your kids earlier?” to the biggest dad you find around.
Just kidding: be responsible! Punch the creep yourself!
And then the violence.
There are some legitimate use cases. I mean as a hard of hearing person I’d love to be able to live caption my daily life (the tech isn’t quite there yet but it’s close). We should be pressuring governments to require visual indicators that they’re recording instead of policing individual users.
Display glasses do that without the camera… You don’t need a camera to transcribe voice to text…
But I get it…there can be…but in the end, Rule 34 applies and all technology will be used for sex.
Erm, ackshually, Rule 34 is “if it exists, there is porn of it”.
Which means somewhere, there’s pics OF sexy anthropomorphic meta glasses. Maybe not even anthropomorphic.
LOL, you sound like my son, he does that to me all the time…
You’re probably right, but I said what I said. ;-)
I was at an event and the host was wearing them
In the context of “his job is a promoter and you’re at an event he’s promoting, and he’s not hiding that he’s recording” I was kind of okay with it.
But normally you’d have some side conversations with the guy and I felt really awkward with him wearing the glasses.
I felt their presence made the event worse. A video guy would have been fine by contrast, because there’s judgement and editorial reatraint.
Nope, I would have walked out. There are precious few pictures of me in this world (and the ones that exist are mostly celluloid) and my plan is to keep it that way as much as possible…
You might like my spouse
We were at a dinner event and they hired a drone operator to film it. So we’re sitting there, the musician is going on stage, and you hear brrrrrrrrrrrrr zrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the whole fucking time as this drove flies around you. We had an edge seat next on a patio so we’re the front row for the drone…
She spent the entire evening flipping off that drone so the footage wouldn’t be usable.
They didn’t ask for consent or a waiver or notify you they were doing that. We had tickets to multiple nights (bought months in advance) and they did this at all of them. We actually thought it was some annoying kid trying to be a brat until I saw the drone guy talking to the staff at the end of the night.
Super obnoxious.
Being able to ruin a product presumes that it wasn’t vile to begin with.
Ahhhh, glassholes.
I’m stealing that.
It’s from 2013, when Google released Google Glass, the first glasses containing a screen and camera. The backlash to that was exactly like the backlash today towards glasses with cameras. The techbros just hoped we had forgotten.
Or maybe they just hoped that we were more desensitized to constant surveillance.
I think these would be really cool to stream my scooter rides to my friends but I would probably buy an off brand because I don’t trust the weird AI glasses
Did they really think “yes, let’s make Glasshole v2” and nobody gave it a second thought?
Next up: campaigns to normalize privacy violations IRL too, because that’s separate from digital.
Also, please Flock and Ring too.
Cities should be just as afraid of deploying Flock cameras.
Sure, but this is an international thing, Flock is US only. And it’s completely expected to see comments about something US specific written like it’s a global thing (or that nothing outside the US exists) because that’s fucking always the case.
The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can’t comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn’t the US.
That comment says way more about you than you intend and your assumptions about all Americans are laughable. Having a bad day, are you?
You should take yourself and your asshole attitude back to Reddit, find the rest of your miserable flock and claim victory, that is if they don’t ignore your sorry ass there too.
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The cameras have copper in them too. Probably.
Thats what i keep hearing. I bet they have cameras and maybe sim cards too. Along with a spiffy solar panel.
sim cards
This gave me a good laugh, imagine putting the SIM card into a mobile router or something. Just use it like a data plan, no big deal.
I think someone did it but with a device thought for blocking your car
Attaching to this to remind everyone that these cameras have sensors to scrape rfid, nfc, tpms, Bluetooth, and wifi ssids as well. They’re not ‘license plate readers’. They’re full suite surveillance systems that’ll capture every ID passing by. Your list of remembered wifi connections in your phone is a trackable fingerprint, and unless you take steps, it’s being broadcast every time you turn on wifi.
Your phone is not broadcasting a list of WiFi networks it wants to connect to. That’s not how it works at all.
It is periodically (couple of times a second probably) checking the available SSIDs to see if there is one that matches a remembered network on it’s list.
It would be horribly insecure to have a device broadcasting the name of a network that it would actively try to connect to.
Unfortunately, this has a habit of becoming a self-reinforcing need for authoritarian policing.
“Flock camera destruction” becomes the rationale for more cameras and more cops and more draconian punishments. And this cycle continues so long as the public continues to send up corporate shills and industry hacks to fill the municipal offices.
Oh good to know. I guess we’ll just have to stick with the alternative. Do nothing and watch it happen anyway.
Or you could try to make ACTUAL change, instead of throwing temper tantrums like a child and encouraging others to get themselves in legal trouble that would affect the rest of their lives.
How many have you destroyed? Let me guess. Zero. Another internet tough guy who others to take the hit.
No, you have to go after the local politicians who keep approving these systems. Electorally of course, you psychos. Your local city council rep is going to feel much more pressure from an angry letter from a voter than your senator would.
Electorally of course, you psychos.
Or not, if push really comes to shove.
But you do have to recognize that you can’t just break the fascade of the machine to get it to stop working.
Vote harder, libs!
Yes? The reason shit you don’t like happens is because you refuse to a participate, you fucking dunce.
Ignore the vote! If we don’t vote, it delegitimizes the election and then the local government will be forced to ignore everyone that stayed home and still do the awful thing anyway because the winner is an open fascist.
Much better alternative!
This is probably one of the few issues you could really get grass roots bipartisan support on these days. It would have to be marketed right though. Maybe something like “DEI cameras”, or “6G posts”.
I heard they’re chock full of copper
Elected officials are loaded with copper.
Follow them around with cameras. They need to feel the dystopian pressure themselves
They will sue you for harassment. Keep in mind that when it’s done to them, it’s “different”.
And so they should be.
Exactly what other use would someone have out in public for a pair of glasses that silently and stealthily record the world around them on a whim?
Google was literally bashed for exactly this same reason with the Glass. Its not that people dislike the idea of portable recordings, that’s what we have action cams for - it’s the desperate attempt to conceal a recording device into glasses.
The market is basically only vloggers and perverts, and the vloggers are perfectly content with wearing way less creepy action cams.
No, recording glasses absolutely are awful to have in society, but there are potential good uses of the technology. None that outweigh the downsides, but good uses for it could exist.
For example when you see someone you met before it could pop up a bubble telling you their name, their relationship to you, when you saw them last, previous topics that you’ve discussed with them, etc. Or when you’re following walking directions it could display a green line on the route you’re supposed to follow. Or for people with disabilities it could do things like block out visual elements that could trigger a seizure. Etc.
But as i said earlier, all the potential upsides combined don’t come close to outweighing all the very awful very real downsides. Just clarifying.
Translation is a great application. In. Foreign country, text is overlayed with the translation. Subtitles for people speaking.
I’d you’re training you can see your regimen, heart rate, speed, exercises.
Blocking out advertisement would be fun.
But the thing should not be allowed to record anything. But even then some idiot is going to put the nudify app on the phone and we’re back at creepy.
That’s the thing. It’s inherently an all or nothing technology, no rules or regulations could ever be trusted to allow the good uses but prevent the bad uses. So the only right option is to prevent the technology from being used at all
There are smart glasses without camera that can do translation. So there are some options.
For example when you see someone you met before it could pop up a bubble telling you their name, their relationship to you, when you saw them last, previous topics that you’ve discussed with them, etc.
This legit sounds terrible. This sound like a world without meaningful social connections where people are cocooned into isolation by convenience technologies. You should just learn people’s names. Even if it makes you a bit anxious because you are worried you will mess up details sometimes, it is better than that kind of loneliness.
The only benefit I understand they offer is making life somewhat easier for the vision impaired.
Reminds me of Google glass or whatever it was called. It’s not that people aren’t ready, it’s just a bad idea
i remember that, the first news of it was it was being used to WATCH PORN. and then i saw a person in a subway once with it, it looks silly and kinda perverty.
Remember that documentary about them? https://youtu.be/6PY8C1KmNwM
I love that big tech was so arrogant they just plum forgot or choose to ignore why those died then.
And then above it they still chose the one thing everyone was mad about, a camera. All they had to do was not put a camera in there but they couldn’t resist.
I think the product that speaks the most about the camera was the Snapchat Spectacles. Snapchat did everything they could to position it strictly as a fun, party-oriented camera that didn’t try to hide what it was but leaned into the fun ways to use it.
And they still died out after the initial hype. Which I think is most telling because, like, here’s this product with the most positive take you could possibly have on “glasses with cameras” and people still didn’t want it. So wth makes Google think the creepy no-fun version will catch on?
Not everything.
They should have gone full OG instagram and make the glasses look like a pair of old school Polaroid cameras that even spit out the picture.
Because it’s the gateway to augmented reality and conditions the public even further I to the assumption they are constantly being surveilled.
This is meta not google, but same difference
Not for the first time. Metaverse failed for all the same reasons that Second Life did: it’s a solution to a problem that most people don’t have. Except Second Life - which still exists and supposedly is far more active than during its heyday - only cost the merest fraction compared to the Metaverse.
As for the Spybans, there were a couple of short films released around 2010 that predicted the privacy issues linking AR with realtime social networking would bring. So it’s not a new idea. Unfortunately, both films were taken down soon after because they were deemed too disturbing.
And yet, here we are.
It wasn’t dumb and they didn’t forget. The frog has simply been sufficiently boiled. Meta sold millions of these. The people complaining are a very small minority.
these are the same people who would unironically make the torment nexus, firmly believing that they will do it right and it will be good this time
Needed the data, if you’re phone is always in your pocket then it’s really hard to get a live video. Better to model their AI to simulate human interactions
creeps are the #1 target demo for these devices
I honestly don’t think so. I think they’re up there, but tech “enthusiasts” (read, tech bros and people who think random gadgets are cool) probably are. They’re happy to waste their money and give money to meta. Creeps are definitely number 2 or 3 though.
creeps, and creep supporters, ok. anyone giving meta money is at least creep adjacent if not a creep themselves.
Yeah, I’d consider myself a bit of a tech enthusiast but I’d never buy a closed source product like smart glasses. I have looked a little into Mentra glasses as it’s open source and it looks like you might be able to stand up your own backend.
It would in no way be an everyday wear for me though. I’d probably only ever wear it for outdoor activities. But honestly a GoPro or equivalent with a harness would probably be a better option for that.
They used to say that porn was the real driver of technology for home video.
The porn industry makes like three times as much money as Hollywood. They were right.
it was one of the things that decided vhs vs betamax.
betamax (sony) wanted licensing fees from everyone and VHS (everyone else) wanted to win.
for meta it would be pretty much useless without camera
90% of the point of these things is having AI analyze what you are looking at (and also monetize it with ads etc).
By “not ready,” they mean, “not complacent enough.” Fuck the tech bros.
For consumers yes, but an AR glasses for technical workers that (for example with an electrician), you could mark and highlight cables in AR that you are working on/ignoring or being able to auto search and send IC identifications on reverse engineering a PCB would be genuinely useful.
Bad enough that Tesla’s are mobile surveillance nodes. Definitely don’t need cameras going indoors everywhere too.
It’s annoying how tech bros phrase products and services so that you don’t get to say no, it’s something like not right now or people aren’t ready. Lots of stuff from pop ups for OneDrive in windows to press releases about Google glass. It’s fascist.
No your product or service is unwanted and no means no.
A) Buy now
B) Maybe later🙄
This is so infuriating.
They are not that keen on obtaining consent. In every regard.
They spike terms of service with no ethical opt out and call it a day.
lol and that was 5mp, genuinely low res compared to the pervert specs
The problem with Google Glass is that had a form factor which limited what could be done. On top of that it was a beta product and you technically needed to be a developer with I think C language knowledge to be allowed to purchase one. Even if you could buy it the device was like $1,000+ because it wasn’t a consumer ready model.
Yeah the idea was so bad Apple stopped developing future Apple Vision products and pivoted to release an affordable alternative.
This thread seems to have a whole lot of hopefulness and not much actual data they are going off. If Apple actually launches a good usable pair for a decent price, it will all become “I wish manufacturers never made these” and people yelling pervert at someone on the street will result in them getting sued/arrested/baker acted.
It’s been 12 years since glass went public, I have to imagine someone figured out decent ways to work the upgrades in hardware since into them.
2013 version: 45nm Chip made by Texas instruments.
Any chip from 2026/7 will run laps around it
apples approach seems to be wait and see.
that make sense, why i only saw one person in public once using, so they had to be a tech dev. in any cause it was still considered as a perv glass too, because you could somehow watch porn on it.
“Glassholes”
I remember.
I used to run a comedy show during this era.
We straight up kicked those fucks out
I used to support the Glass team at Google. I felt so bad watching them destroy the team after Sergey influence plummeted after he was caught cheating. They just slowly moved everyone to different projects. They had super stars on that team.
Someone shouted “GLASSHOLES!” and died.
True AR? Absolutely not a bad idea, are you kidding me?
Take out the ability to record stealthily and they’re a great idea. Overlay art on walls, place monitors in your real space, do work on a laptop with the screen off, put directions in the actual world so you’re not looking at a screen, and that just what I can think of off the top of my head.
Don’t let the tech conglomerates ruin an amazing tech concept.
These do exist and they are pretty amazing apparently.
Their form factor still isn’t great from what I understand. The tech isn’t properly caught up to the idea. But once it has, it’s going to be a paradigm shift in the way we interact with the digital world similar to the smart phone.
Vision Pro is as close as we have come, and it is still overpriced, ugly, uncomfortable, and incapable of most basic AR tasks. It can’t identify and track objects in real time, which is the lowest bar for functional AR.
Only two comments on the article and one of them is most definitely a pervert.
