good!
OpenAI’s wearable hardware will be even better.
I dunno if it’s a pin or belt buckle or earpiece or what, but imagine such a thing with its camera always on, its microphone always recording and ready to talk back, plus whatever other sensors and data streams it has for “awareness.”
Even if they disable video recording on the thing, I think it will become taboo too.
Google seems to be working on Pixel phones listening in on conversations, and more. Going forward one has to assume any conversation to a Pixel owner is not private. https://www.androidcentral.com/phones/google-pixel/leaked-google-pixel-audio-memory-poised-to-remember-what-youve-heard
What about a Pixel owner who is also privacy aware and is running GrapheneOS? Seriously though, I wouldn’t trust any device these days. My S25U sends just as much telemetry back as raw Pixel Android does, and Samsung locks you in hard.
I saw the audio memory thing for music in the patch notes, made me glad I was immediately installing Graphene on this thing.
“Ok Google” has been doing this for years, as well as “hey Siri”.
We ripped all this shit out after my wife and I had a conversation about a very specific item, then we both got bombarded with ads for them the next day.
I dunno if it’s a pin or belt buckle or earpiece or what
I’ve heard demos on all of these and they all suck. Bad connectivity, poor interfaces, prone to overheating, very limited use cases… All these gadgets fucking suck.
imagine such a thing with its camera always on, its microphone always recording and ready to talk back, plus whatever other sensors and data streams it has for “awareness.”
Your cellphone ALREADY DOES ALL THIS!
But because it’s a portable touchscreen online TV, it’s still got a few useful functions attached. None of these other widgets offer anything a cell phone can’t do better and cheaper.
I flashed e/os to main and I love it! Automatic blocking of trackers. Clear notices when apps access hardware. Falsified GPS to a plausible location at the flip of a switch. It’s still not perfect but it’s a big step and very easy to install.
I think Graphene is similar?
I’ve just had so many random bullshit issues with syncing my phone while using a VPN. I’m very reluctant to go to a new OS entirely. Maybe I can dig out an old phone and experiment. But I haven’t even set up a proper Arr suite yet. So I’m not in a rush to add another task to the queue.
Oh that’s totally fair! Honestly it’s been a really pleasant surprise? I thought I’d have to fight it but even the few Google apps I needed still worked without an issue. I’ve been gradually sunsetting them one by one and just removed the last one the other day.
I love Organic Maps for nav. The voice is a little clunky but everything is computed offline.
Did you want any help? Tech support is literally my job, lol. I’ve built an are stack + jellyfin, mailserver and home assistant before for what it’s worth.
Smartphone cameras are obscured in your pocket though. And isn’t typically always responsive like Alexa attached to your shirt.
I’m not saying you’re wrong though. It’s just lest obvious and doesn’t have the opportunity to film all the time.
I mean, in theory we do. An AR display or earpiece with lots of sensors would be cool.
But these companies have all poisoned the well. No one trusts them nor users on their platforms anymore.
In case we forgot, half the problem with the Meta glasses IS Instagram. They created a space where macho jerks can get super rich live-streaming being a jerk, so of course thats what they will use the glasses for.
This is exactly what I said about Windows Recall. It’s not a bad idea per se, but it requires the user to trust a company which has repeatedly and publicly screwed over its customers; a thing which no sane person would do.
We don’t need a wearable for more than a camera and microphone, and that’s only for people who are too lazy to take their phone out of their pocket.
If I’m forced around people (family, friends, coworkers) who would wear them my go to would always be “I’m sorry, I’m not comfortable discussing (whatever topic) while being recorded”. I think that’s the best way to reinforce each time that it’s weird, there’s a constant recording of everything said, and that the people around them think it’s weird
My Mom already does this around smartphones.
Some family thinks it’s weird or paranoid. I think it’s smart.
It sends the message. It’s an effective, reasonable way to get it across.
It’s been known for a long time that they listen in. “hopefully” it’s only keywords and items like dishwasher.
I’ve been stressing to family that sentiment analysis is so easy and cheap now. They usually respond with “what’s that”? To which I reply "Take the entire history chain of messages between you and everyone in your contacts. Then simply ask ‘Is this conversation pro or against the current administration’, or ‘Are they pro or against ICE’, or ‘are they pro-life or pro-choice’, or literally anything else. In <10 seconds every conversation you have is sorted and collated, and note that at no point did a human read the message, but now has enough information on the conversation to justify a warrant.
Sentiment analysis should terrify everyone with how easy it is to sort every communication. So I say it’s not tin foil hat.
That has been snapping them into reality.
Takes me back to the HAARP conspiracy days of taking out your SIM card and eating it raw
There are conversations my family and I have intentionally away from electronics/phones. Mostly I’m hoping to instill the habit in my kid.
See shame is good sometimes. If people are too dumb to do the right thing than a shaming hoedown is in order.
Good. Anyone caught wearing those in public should have them knocked the fuck off their faces…
There are some legitimate use cases. I mean as a hard of hearing person I’d love to be able to live caption my daily life (the tech isn’t quite there yet but it’s close). We should be pressuring governments to require visual indicators that they’re recording instead of policing individual users.
Display glasses do that without the camera… You don’t need a camera to transcribe voice to text…
But I get it…there can be…but in the end, Rule 34 applies and all technology will be used for sex.
Erm, ackshually, Rule 34 is “if it exists, there is porn of it”.
Which means somewhere, there’s pics OF sexy anthropomorphic meta glasses. Maybe not even anthropomorphic.
LOL, you sound like my son, he does that to me all the time…
You’re probably right, but I said what I said. ;-)
I was at an event and the host was wearing them
In the context of “his job is a promoter and you’re at an event he’s promoting, and he’s not hiding that he’s recording” I was kind of okay with it.
But normally you’d have some side conversations with the guy and I felt really awkward with him wearing the glasses.
I felt their presence made the event worse. A video guy would have been fine by contrast, because there’s judgement and editorial reatraint.
Nope, I would have walked out. There are precious few pictures of me in this world (and the ones that exist are mostly celluloid) and my plan is to keep it that way as much as possible…
You might like my spouse
We were at a dinner event and they hired a drone operator to film it. So we’re sitting there, the musician is going on stage, and you hear brrrrrrrrrrrrr zrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the whole fucking time as this drove flies around you. We had an edge seat next on a patio so we’re the front row for the drone…
She spent the entire evening flipping off that drone so the footage wouldn’t be usable.
They didn’t ask for consent or a waiver or notify you they were doing that. We had tickets to multiple nights (bought months in advance) and they did this at all of them. We actually thought it was some annoying kid trying to be a brat until I saw the drone guy talking to the staff at the end of the night.
Super obnoxious.
I dont think this is deserving of violence, shouting “YO THIS PERVERT IS CREATING PORN OF ME ON HIS GLASSES” and making a big scene of it should be fun
“Wasn’t he looking at your kids earlier?” to the biggest dad you find around.
Just kidding: be responsible! Punch the creep yourself!
No the reason they are too scared to wear them is because of the threats of violence.
No threat. Promise.
And then the violence.
Being able to ruin a product presumes that it wasn’t vile to begin with.
Meanwhile commenter Ken’s on the prowl.
I legitimately struggle to imagine what else you’d use them for unless you were doing daily vlogging, in which case you’d be talking to yourself and it would be pretty obvious. But anyone just like riding the subway with these things is just creeping until proven otherwise.
Like a dashcam to prove you’re innocent, but for your whole life, not just driving.
There are tons of things that involve recording what you are doing that doesn’t involve anyone else.
Recording myself taking electronics apart, doing woodworking, or a lot of hobby stuff from first person perspective in a convenient format like safety goggles instead of a camera strapped to the top of the head would be awesome!
Very convenient for recording what I am looking at while driving, not just front and back dash views. People working in dangerous situations having easy recording equipment, like during disaster recovery or administering medical care that would be better than clip on chest cams.
Private individuals going about their day in public? Not enough positives to outweigh the negatives for sure.
I’d see them as a neat action cam that’s more sincerely 1st person than a GoPro…if they didn’t have Meta slop on board.
That’s what I mean - there’s definitely reasons the form factor makes sense. But anyone just walking around with it day to day is looking at T&A. Full stop.
What I really want is to be able to record my son at a track meet. Only during his heats, I’d like to be able to look at him with my own eyes and record what i’m seeing with something like a 3x zoom. The camera could be an external, removable addon. when I don’t need it, it’s off.
If only tech bros watched dystopian works about technology like Black Mirror that told us how dumb this concept really is. But hey at least they will learn from their own mistakes, right… right?
They are watching shows like Black Mirror, but its for inspiration
Don’t create the Torment Nexus
The moral of Don’t Create the Torment Nexus is that you should create the torment nexus first so that you’re in control of it!
They watch Black Mirror and they see a world in which ordinary people have to obey the wishes of the powerful or they suffer. And they like what they see.
Next up: campaigns to normalize privacy violations IRL too, because that’s separate from digital.
Also, please Flock and Ring too.
“A lot of men and their behaviors have ruined this product.”
Yes, like the men running the companies that make this product.
Glassholes have returned
best news to open lemmy to 😂
There is an Android app that looks for the Bluetooth signatures of these glasses and alerts if they are nearby. Hopefully something exists on iOS devices as well.
Oohh need the name of that if you’ve got it handy.
It’s called Nearby Glasses on both IOS and Android.
what’s that app called??
Nearby Glasses
(Play store, also on F-Droid via the IzzyOnDroid repo)
thank you so much!!
Pervalert?
It’s a module within Hotdog/Not Hotdog.
PERVASIVE,
Say, if I walk around with one of these COVID masks on my face, would I be able to consider myself safe from these?
Good. Let’s keep it that way.
ETA: I have a deep loathing of everything Zuck, mainly because he’s amoral. I already have distracted myself from people who use his platforms because all they seem to want is attention at all costs, usually through pushing what they think is true, without evidence, and posting other people’s personal information and images without even asking, let alone consent.
