Four Gaza protesters in Germany are set for deportations despite objections from an immigration official that none were convicted of crimes.

Berlin’s immigration authorities are moving to deport four young foreign residents on allegations related to participation in protests against Israel’s war on Gaza, an unprecedented move that raises serious concerns over civil liberties in Germany.

The deportation orders, issued under German migration law, were made amid political pressure and over internal objections from the head of the state of Berlin’s immigration agency.

The internal strife arose because three of those targeted for deportation are citizens of European Union member states who normally enjoy freedom of movement between E.U. countries. None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

  • truthfultemporarily@feddit.orgEnglish
    12622·
    19 days ago

    If you search for it, its only reported by two outlets. There is not a single German newspaper reporting this, including left wing or Berlin regional ones. Searching for the names in the articles returns no results linked to Berlin or Free Palestine at all. The name of the public official also turns up nothing.

    Could be misinformation.

  • technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    5015·
    19 days ago

    Fash support fash. Germany has been supporting genocide for a long time.

    It’s really amazing how liberals will completely accept genocide up until the very second that it affects them.

    • Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      245·
      19 days ago

      It is heart breaking to see Germany begin to give in to fascism again. What happened to “never again!” ???

      • Tryenjer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        158·
        19 days ago

        It was a lie.

        And in a decade or so, before you know it, Deutschland will be invading Poland again.

        • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          18 days ago

          My prediction, built on assuming we’re in the stupidest timeline, is that Germany will try to help the Palestinians…by carving a new homeland for them out of Poland.

      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        18 days ago

        People started to claim that the people did the thing that was supposed to never happen again did them with no moral self-justifications. This lead to the same evil people getting away with evil yet again if they pull out a (usually fabricated) crime statistics, etc.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      145·
      19 days ago

      Look, if we don’t tolerate at least a little genocide of somebody else, then we’re basically throwing our votes away. /s

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      95·
      19 days ago

      “I think re-arming doesn’t do anything but spend money that could be better spent on helping people.”

      “Shut up, this is exactly what we need right now!”

      “So you don’t care about helping people?”

      “That’s a strawman!”

      Wow it looks like we were right again, but still downvoted and removed. Odd how that always works.

  • jagermo@feddit.orgEnglish
    3314·
    19 days ago

    I have some notes on that. 3 of the 4 are EU citizens, that makes deportations highly complicated. I also can’t find another source, and the intercept has a history of pushing some shady things. Something feels off.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      161·
      19 days ago

      They are naming the people being deported, maybe one of our German friends can dig up some German articles with their names?

      The four people slated for deportation, Cooper Longbottom, Kasia Wlaszczyk, Shane O’Brien, and Roberta Murray, are citizens of, respectively, the U.S., Poland, and in the latter two cases Ireland.

        • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          162·
          19 days ago

          Thanks. It is possible the American student contacted TheIntercept first. If TheIntercept is the first source then German media will likely pick up the story soon.

          I also searched for the lawyer

          “What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

          Apparently Alexander Gorski is the same person who overturned Ghassan Abu-Sittah’s ban from Germany which does lend a lot of credibility unless TheIntercept is straight up making up quotes from people out of thin air.

          The International Centre of Justice for Palestinians (ICJP) announced in a social media post on Tuesday that it, along with lawyer Alexander Gorski and the European Legal Support Centre, had successfully challenged the travel ban imposed on Abu Sitta by Germany.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
      11·
      19 days ago

      What shady stuff have they published in the past? I’ve generally found their coverage good and they often cover stories like this that other mainstream sources won’t.

      • jagermo@feddit.orgEnglish
        43·
        19 days ago

        You are right, I thought that Greenwald was still involved, but left in 2020. i did not like his downplaying of the trump Putin friendship

    • truthfultemporarily@feddit.orgEnglish
      126·
      19 days ago

      Yeah nothing in the taz - Germanys biggest left wing newspaper. Nothing in the Zeit and nothing in Tagespiegel (Berlin Newspaper) either.

      • fantasty@programming.dev
        English
        75·
        19 days ago

        Then it must be fake news and the >1000 people that got killed since the end of the ceasefire and the deliberate mass starvation of the people in Gaza who have to survive on a bowl of rice per day, all that isn’t happening right?

        Because I don’t see any news about that at all by our oh so holy liberal left wing academic journalists. The bubble you live in is pathetic, don’t make it sound like all of us in Germany are as bigoted and blind to the amount of suffering our political and media elites are causing to the Palestinians through constant dehumanization and outright support of the genocide against them. I hate to live in the same country as people like you.

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          41·
          19 days ago

          Heart. You’ve got it. It’s in the right place.

          If I may offer my perspective-

          My natural response here is “wow thank you for doing the legwork, maybe a German article will be posted later tonight, let’s check back“

          • fantasty@programming.dev
            English
            1·
            18 days ago

            Thanks! Tough to do it sometimes but I don’t want this to become like Reddit or leave the narrative to people who dismiss anything they don’t like to hear as fake news. It’s enough that Trump made this a thing, I don’t think we need it here, especially in this case where imo there was never any evidence for this being fake news and now there’s indeed more articles.

        • truthfultemporarily@feddit.orgEnglish
          65·
          19 days ago

          I am sorry you cannot see the difference between an article that has not been corroborated and people claiming there is no genocide in Gaza.

  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    18 days ago

    If those EU citizens take it to EU court they’d probably win very easily. Can’t just take away freedom of movement, one of the tenets of the Union, without any due process. Seriously fuck the German politicians who pressured for this. Guess fascism is making a return, didn’t even need the AfD for that.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.worldEnglish
    227·
    19 days ago

    Germany likes to pretend they’re super liberal and that they have no fascist citizens. They’ve gone completely to the other side of history where they now pretend like they’re above it all. I’m sick of people pretending like Germany is some sort of promised land

    • reiterationstation@lemm.eeEnglish
      4·
      18 days ago

      Israel the kings of the world?

      Nah if the USA gets blamed (deserved) Germany gets fucking blamed (also deserved as the original fucking Nazis they shouldn’t have been forgiven, either).

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    149·
    19 days ago

    “Good” old Nazi thinking never left the German elites, hence their “unwavering support” for a nation committing Genocide very openly because of the race of its people, hence the highly manipulated Press over there spreading and amplifying race-based views and hence their casual bypassing of legal rights to silence those who would demonstrate against such ultra-racism and the support of Genocide based on it.

    They might have changed who the ubermenschen and the untermenshen are but they still keep on classifying people into those two categories by race and treating then very differently, as well as using force to silence dissent against such views and practices.

    In light of Russia’s aggressiveness, the recent news of Germany militarizing itself sounds like good news, but in light of the increasing regression of Germany back to their old extreme-racist and repressive practices those are very bad news - a Germany which thinks race justifies Genocide and suppresses by force dissent from such way of thinking is bound to sooner or later once again use such military power against those they deem “lesser races”