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“Air traffic control, please respond. We aren’t able to see the landing strip and we might crash!”
“Sounds like a skill issue. Git gud.”
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. The most similar command is add
How many “lives” are they given?
All of them. That’s their job now.
Fortunately I don’t need to fly anywhere anytime soon
How is “gamer” defined? Someone who has played video games? Did they also hire 2000 “readers?”
like 3/4s of the USA population plays video games these days.
but we assume here it’s ‘young men who play CoD/madden religiously’. I doubt many of these hires were 40+, or women.
Don’t forget to quicksave
Cool they “hired” but if they fail the tests then they won’t be hired. Which is the main issue. People fail out of the school, because it’s hard and stressful.
I played an ATC game on my phone. Was pretty good at it. Can I has job?
That wasn’t a game.
“Bio break guys. Can we just pause the air traffic for 10 mins?”
This was why MMO experience was sought out.
so i have a little bit of insight into this whole thing. i got a few friends who are controllers and i’ve been in the hiring process myself for nearly 2 years. to save you the history of the hiring process of the last few years: long. duffy “supercharged” the hiring process last year, making it take a lot less time than it used to (months instead of years).
anyway, we don’t actually know if 2000 “gamers” got hired from this latest bid, they’re just saying that because they were catering to gamers with the advertisement (which was majority genAI content lmao). if you applied to the bid, you’re automatically a gamer.
now a few things on what this means for us and the safety of aviation. the minimum requirements are as follows: do you have a pulse? can you obtain a security clearance? do you not have any medical problems that will make you unfit to do the job? have you not taken any federally illegal drugs in the last few years? can you do a few basic math problems? if you can answer yes to all of these questions, you get hired. that’s what the 2000 number is.
when you get hired by the FAA, those 2000 people don’t immediately get to go control traffic at the busiest airport. all ATC candidates must go to the FAA’s training academy in OKC for 3-4 months to learn how to control traffic. it’s designed to train someone who doesn’t even know what a plane is to the basics of controlling traffic, phraseology and proper procedures and all. not everyone makes it through the academy and is a large percent of the attrition rate for applicants.
only after all that do they go to a real facility, but not like LAX. and then they learn some more before touching live traffic.
so overall, i’m not super worried about it. only the people who are actually capable will get though and even then, it will be well over a year before they are controlling on their own if they don’t fail training at their facility
So, be worried in about 6 months then?
What bogus hysteria. Do you have any idea how many people play video games? Would you expect them not to advertise a recruitment drive on television because we don’t want our air traffic controllers to just kick up their feet and watch the screens? Let’s not be idiots.
It’s far more interesting to ask why they need to advertise a recruitment drive. The profession has been losing skilled people because its high skill, high stress, high stakes, and their paycheck gets jerked around every time there’s a government shutdown. Let’s focus on that instead of clutching our pearls over them hiring people who have played video games before.
And… also… Have you seen gamers?
The comments here seem somewhat strange to me for what is likely to be a “gamer” heavy demographic. There’s a lot of ‘I should stop flying’ or otherwise implying that people who, having games as their preferred hobby, will be bad at this. Instead, gamers tend to get really good at a few specific skills such as reaction times, pattern recognition, strategy and min/maxing, etc.
About the only thing I could think making this better would be to select for speedrunners.
That way we get livestreams for APLS - Awesome Planes Landed Safely - and also raise some money for a charity or two.
Absolutely perfect example of what I mean. You want to talk about gamers like they are this specific sub-niche of humans who are all the same.
Would you do this with movies? “People who watch movies are like XYZ and they only have a couple of skills.” What about music? “There’s a music listener in this thread and he said ABC.”
This is why I led with “do you know how many people play video games?” The gaming industry earns more annually than movies and music combined.
You have some stereotype of gamers in your brain, fine. That’s your deal. But “gamers” is just “people” these days. Including me. I’m a gamer. And I say: what bogus hysteria.
about 6 months minimum before they’re allowed to talk to real planes, a year and a half minimum after that before they are out on their own. the academy will get rid of a lot of people who truly are not cut out for this type of work, and facility training will get rid of more. tbh i’m not super worried because the job is do it by the book or find another job. if they don’t do it right, they won’t be talking to real traffic for very long if at all
He said 3-4 months lol
For education, plus some more before real traffic
Sorry was making a joke, that under this admin, they’ll push them through, kinda like they do with the rent a cops at ICE.
Does the game allow cheats or the ability to spawn natural disasters? I want simcity levels of control.
“Mid or I leave”
Too bad I am an audio gamer 🙁
Jokes aside, thanks for reminding me this audio game exists:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Blind_Legend
Apparently there’s a PC version
gg
Way back in the day there used to a game called Tracon, which was an air traffic control simulator. I played it a few tells and from those experiences I knew that ATC was never going to be a path for me. I caused so many midair collisions.
Plane Landed!
style: 4500
substance: 4500
speed: 4000
civilian health: 5000 PERFECT
rings collected: 5000 PERFECT
black box: INTACT
Grade: A
“A?! A?? wtf do you even want!? WHERE’S MY GODDAMN S-RANK!?”
throws controller
throws controller
Steve looked up from the corner of the tower. “What the hell, man? I didn’t know you could pick me up, but what the hell? Just toss me like that? Jesus, dude, calm the fuck down!”
Hi guys! Welcome back. So today we’re going to see if we can trigger that unsigned integer underflow bug that some of you have been talking about. As you can see here I’ve already got an Iberia Airbus A380 heading perfectly due West towards Null Island and, thanks to the telemetry bug we found last week that still hasn’t been patched we’ve got it showing as a two-seater Cessna so the occupation rate is 15000% so what were going to do is get the latitude, longitude and altitude to all cross zero at the same time…
“Atlanta Center, Delta 412, descending through flight level 190, vector for runway 26 Right.”
“Delta 412, copy. Hold your horses, bad connection on your end, total dial-up energy.”
“Atlanta Center, American 805, five miles behind Delta 412, also requesting 26 Right.”
“American 805, radar contact. Wait, you guys are practically sniffing each other’s tailpipes, this spacing is absolute dogshit.”
“American 805, we can go around and vector back if—”
“Nah, speedrun mode activated. Both of you cleared land 26 Right, first one down gets the lobby win! LEeeerrrooooyyyyy mmmmmmJjjeeennnkkkiinnnsssss!!!”
Incredible comment, thank you!
