• bedwyr@piefed.ca
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    4 hours ago

    What? No. You want the government to be in control of this tech directly? Jesus Christ, I can’t tell which is worse, our situation now, or if we nationalized it and the goddamned federal government was calling the shots directly.

    We should seize control of them by legal process and explode them with due process in law and all that shit.

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    4 hours ago

    If it sounds dumb, it’s because it’s meant to. “Buy them if they fail” debate leads to more onerous alternative proposals. The US is on a mission to make Skynet for Israel or China wins. It’s hard for them to fail when Skynet will pay high prices for their datacenter time. But if they fail, it will be because they are too expensive, and “American people” owning them doesn’t pay American people anything if they are stuck losing money forever. And the other alternatives that stem from debate, is “why not just throw government money at bubble top rates?”

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    5 hours ago

    I like this idea. Let the government print tons of money and buy these companies, and while they’re doing that, my net worth will go up since I hold my net worth in Monero and not Fiat.

    Edit: Maybe this will teach people that the government doesn’t care about you and that the only safe thing to hold is something they can’t print out of thin air.

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      8 hours ago

      Tbf most US nationalization schemes are just bailouts. The car manufactures just had stocks purchased. Intel too.

      There is little appetite from corpo Dems and of course any Republicans for a forced seizing of assets.

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    8 hours ago

    Absolutely fucking not.

    I’m not coming from the “AI hater” angle either. I love open models.

    But OpenAI and Anthropic are abominations. I’ve watched good startups and research groups disappear into the gaping maw they’ve created, all reason go out the window, replaced by whatever lies are coming out of Altman and Modi’s mouths.

    …They’re destroying US innovation, and sucking everything into a black hole.

    They need to burn.

    And its honestly insane someone like Schneier can’t see this, or was just paid to say this. No one in the machine learning research space likes OpenAI; they never have. I guess he’s old enough to use past nationalization efforts as a baseline, in his mind?

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    Absolutely fucking not.

    Nationalizing AI companies represents nothing more than a big tech bailout, leaving the American taxpayers holding the bag for the grandiose excesses, industrialized IP theft, and borderline fraudulence of some of the richest and most powerful corporations in modern society.

    Hell no. No bailout for big AI.

    They stole everything they have from the people, and if they are too stupid to figure out how to turn unprecedented plagiarism on a global scale into a viable business plan, then they deserve nothing more than to fail outright.

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        Because these “assets” are at best hemorrhaging billions of dollars per year, and are also the result of total cultural strip mining. Why would I, as a taxpayer, want to take over a massive, and massively unprofitable business?

        I think it’s naive to believe that the government will seize these companies without without a huge amount of taxpayer cash winding up in the hands of big tech companies and their owners.

        Let failing businesses fail. Leave the taxpayers out of it

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      9 hours ago

      if they are too stupid to figure out how to turn unprecedented plagiarism on a global scale into a viable business plan,

      Have they tried asking the LLM to generate one?

      “Claude, justify your existence in the form of a well-written business plan for a mult-billion dollar company”

  • diocesegoldmine@sh.itjust.works
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    10 hours ago

    From space to telecommunications, the US has a long history of fostering technology for the public good.

    This one sentence alone is enough to dismiss the entire knob-slobbering article in my eyes.

    Edit: A word.

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    10 hours ago

    Each investor will get one CD of ChatGPT training data per share as a bankruptcy settlement. Every CD need to be inserted into a single user-provided server to train the model anew, because it’s saved as a multipart archive.