Why do we always give shit to the people who will be murderers? Uh . . Hm. I don’t know I guess. Maybe because they’re full of it? Maybe because their willingness to murder isn’t a particularly ennobling characteristic?
The only place where you can end ever conflict with no violence is in make believe land.
That’s not true. History provides examples. Do they all last forever? Also no - because time.
I mean when some back woods red neck is at your door with a shotty are you gonna talk? Do you think they will listen?
That’s an entirely different scenario. A drunk MAGAt stepping in my area threateningly will have his ground standed on. But that’s not what our proud lefty chest-beaters are on about here. They wanna Charlie Kirk Ted Cruz. And bully for them, just realize they’re not gonna do it. It’s fine to feel that way but when it becomes ‘legitimate political operations are fools to not murder MAGAts’ they’re shitting in the soup. It becomes another problem we have to deal with to get anywhere.
That’s not true. History provides examples. Do they all last forever? Also no - because time.
History also has plenty of examples which required violence. So their every statement holds.
Some conflicts forces one side to turn the dial, the French revolution is one. Which is the cornerstone building the majority of European democracies, as that was a way for the ruling/royal class to give back power to the peasants, to ensure they didn’t get inspired by some guillotines
I agree. Killing someone is murder not matter the circumstances. But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder. Would you say the person who kills another person harming their family a murderer? By all definition they are, but would we hound them as evil or bad or crazy? Or would we say “they did what they did to defend their family.”
But also I keep seeing this denial of what MAGA can do.
There is no greater danger than to underestimate your opponents.
If I was to step back and look at it, MAGA has proven again and again that they are capable and willing. To be even more honest, they are whooping our asses right now.
What I’m saying is, when the chips are laid down and the dust is settled and you are face to face with hateful human who doesn’t care about your logic or beliefs, and is willing to mow you down to get what they want…do you really wanna push everyone who is willing to cross that line away?
I’d much rather have a person willing to pick up a spear and fight along side me than someone to quote to me why I’m wrong for wanting to fight.
I won’t down vote you or anything. Your beliefs are yours. I know we both probably agree, we should strive for better as a species. But for me, I don’t believe we can get to a better world unless we are willing to put our selves on the line for it.
(I’ll try to reread your comment more, but right now I am spending time with my kid)
But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder.
I know what you mean, but y’know. Whoever it is still has to live with it; which I am reliably informed is “a bitch” for anyone not already a sociopath.
It’s not that fighting is wrong, per se, it’s that killing someone should always be the last resort whenever possible. At least that’s how I see it. I might not if I wasn’t me.
Why do we always give shit to the people who will be murderers? Uh . . Hm. I don’t know I guess. Maybe because they’re full of it? Maybe because their willingness to murder isn’t a particularly ennobling characteristic?
That’s not true. History provides examples. Do they all last forever? Also no - because time.
That’s an entirely different scenario. A drunk MAGAt stepping in my area threateningly will have his ground standed on. But that’s not what our proud lefty chest-beaters are on about here. They wanna Charlie Kirk Ted Cruz. And bully for them, just realize they’re not gonna do it. It’s fine to feel that way but when it becomes ‘legitimate political operations are fools to not murder MAGAts’ they’re shitting in the soup. It becomes another problem we have to deal with to get anywhere.
History also has plenty of examples which required violence. So their every statement holds.
Some conflicts forces one side to turn the dial, the French revolution is one. Which is the cornerstone building the majority of European democracies, as that was a way for the ruling/royal class to give back power to the peasants, to ensure they didn’t get inspired by some guillotines
I agree. Killing someone is murder not matter the circumstances. But I am aware enough to know that not all murder is murder. Would you say the person who kills another person harming their family a murderer? By all definition they are, but would we hound them as evil or bad or crazy? Or would we say “they did what they did to defend their family.”
But also I keep seeing this denial of what MAGA can do.
There is no greater danger than to underestimate your opponents.
If I was to step back and look at it, MAGA has proven again and again that they are capable and willing. To be even more honest, they are whooping our asses right now.
What I’m saying is, when the chips are laid down and the dust is settled and you are face to face with hateful human who doesn’t care about your logic or beliefs, and is willing to mow you down to get what they want…do you really wanna push everyone who is willing to cross that line away?
I’d much rather have a person willing to pick up a spear and fight along side me than someone to quote to me why I’m wrong for wanting to fight.
I won’t down vote you or anything. Your beliefs are yours. I know we both probably agree, we should strive for better as a species. But for me, I don’t believe we can get to a better world unless we are willing to put our selves on the line for it.
(I’ll try to reread your comment more, but right now I am spending time with my kid)
I know what you mean, but y’know. Whoever it is still has to live with it; which I am reliably informed is “a bitch” for anyone not already a sociopath.
It’s not that fighting is wrong, per se, it’s that killing someone should always be the last resort whenever possible. At least that’s how I see it. I might not if I wasn’t me.