• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    I’m just so grateful that all the previous presidents refused to do this and setup safeguards to ensure that Trump will be punished. \s \s \s

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      5 months ago

      Previous presidents are only part of the equation.

      The other part is having a society that isn’t stupid enough to elect a felon rapist pedophile insurrectionist.

      The situation we find ourselves in is as much American’s fault as it is our politicians. Actually moreso, since those politicians are only there because of American’s decisions.

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        5 months ago

        It’s truly more complicated than that. The USA electoral system is weird worldwide, but more than weird, it’s antiquated and by design, by tradition, very prone to be manipulated, and this goes from the caucus system to the elections themselves.

        It’s set up for the people to feel they are actually choosing leaders, but the reality is the political representation is only achieved for an increasingly narrow economical and ideological subset of the people. The American political class is very conservative, and it always breaks my heart that many Democrats feel offended when people from other countries, like me, point this out.

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            5 months ago

            The people have done what they can. Politicians have failed to them. That’s why Trump was headed to last 4 years in power only, and then the Democrats handed him, on a silver plate, another presidential term by being essentially equal to their rivals. As I see it, the political class is the one failing, by showing the people there is not a real path for a leftist government once and again. Americans need brutal leftist politicians as they have brutal right-wing ones in spades. The people is eager to support a younger Sanders-like face, someone that won’t compromise the benefit of the majority’s views.

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          5 months ago

          Ehh… Wouldn’t put it past him having told some engineer to rig it and boast about rigging the election, all while the engineer did fuck all, because they were just a janitor fixing the thermostat in the office of some rich douchebag high on ketamine.

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      5 months ago

      It’s a little unclear if Nigeria asked for it but they seem to be going along with it.

      https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/us-launches-strikes-against-islamic-state-militants-northwest-nigeria-trump-says-2025-12-25/

      Nigeria’s government has said armed groups target both Muslims and Christians, and U.S. claims that Christians face persecution do not represent the complex security situation and ignore efforts to safeguard religious freedom. But it has agreed to work with the U.S. to bolster its forces against militant groups.

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        5 months ago

        So, that’s the thing, right? We’re so used to everything this administration does being Absolutely horrible. Rightly so.

        But they took out Islamic State™? That would be a win for humanity. . .but is it true? Sheesh, that’s the hard part. Who’s to say? It’s always more complicated than a single headline or news article can contain.

        We’re almost entirely in a post-truth society at this point.

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          5 months ago

          Sometimes the why can be just as important as the action.

          Did this happen because Donald Trump wanted to do a good thing that would benefit someone that isn’t him? Probably not.

          Did this happen because headlines are flying around that Donald Trump is a child rapist/baby murderer and any distraction is a good distraction? I’d say the timing is pretty fucking on point for a new conflict or a newly publicized conflict.

          I feel like this is something that could have possibly been the right the to do, but I am more than certain that it wasn’t intended to be.

          Who’s to say?

          Who knows man

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            5 months ago

            I thought you were supposed to be the one with a definitive answer to the “who’s to say” question!

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    5 months ago

    I know things were pretty fucked - I haven’t been a lifelong cynic for no reason - but still, it’s amazing how quickly snd completely the US has descended into screeching insanity.

    And all at the hands of this demented lunatic, his psychopathic enablers and his legions of angry and stupid followers.

    What a world…

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      5 months ago

      And all of it because billionaires want to fuck children and not pay taxes.

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      I’m sorry, you think this sort of behavioral escalation is distinctively Trumpian? Go look up the military actions of Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. This is the the US - nonstop mass murder, constantly, unending, brutal, insane. Trump is just rubber stamping what the military puts in front him. He isn’t planning these things out.

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        5 months ago

        bOtH SiDeS eXaCtLy ThE sAmE. Bullshit like this is all I hear from people who want to suck Trump’s dick these days

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          Obama literally got the Nobel peace price while bombing civilians with drones in the middle east, do you really think that what’s happening in Nigeria is significantly worse?

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            There is a difference yes, equating the two allows the people who are less justified and also currently doing things to get away with more than I think you’re realizing. I’m also pointing out that that is basically the main strategy for people who support Trump right now, pretend the bad things Democrats have done are basically exactly the same level of bad as this straight up fucking evil bullshit fascism we are seeing. I’m simply saying that equating everything and calling it all the same amount of bad is not productive and allows the worst to become more normalized than they would otherwise. I’m not justifying anything bad that any Democratic president did, just saying that we need to have gray areas here and recognize some level of tiers of evil, not just pretend that somehow Obama and Trump are the same person.

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              There is a difference yes

              Ok, point out the material difference between war crimes conducted by obama and trump. “Decorum” or “justifications” don’t count as material differences.

              trump is worse on many other topics, from outright fascism in the US to openly supporting fascists abroad to cutting USAID and such, but in terms of military action this administration is mostly just following the long-established bipartisan war crime traditions.

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                For support for fascism, look no further than Truman (D) presiding over Operation Paperclip which collaborated with the Vatican to save many Nazis and relocate them all over the US and South America, give them new identies, jobs, money, and protection.

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                  I’m not saying D are all paragons, in fact fuck much of what they have done, and fuck them for being beholden to the rich, fuck them for a bunch of other stuff besides, but there was more genuine intent for good than this absolute filth fascism horseshit. Lefties are supposed to be the side of the spectrum that can actually parse differing levels of evil, but it seems more like many of us want to make perfect the enemy of good

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    5 months ago

    From the article:

    “In November, CNN reported that the president’s initial threat against Nigeria came after he watched a Fox News segment about violence in the country.”