This is why Meta’s entire network is blocked at the edge of mine.
I don’t disagree with your decision to do this, but this isn’t really offering you any additional protection if you’re not using their products.
It’s basically just a failsafe for web trackers that don’t get blocked. It isn’t preventing Meta from accessing your personal data if you’re not actively feeding it to them like Muse users are.
It’s making sure no one using my network can use their products. Do you not have kids or do your kids not have friends?
Your entire post could have remained a thought in your head and would have been just as useful.
Depraved idiots offer it and gullible idiots accept it.
99% of us are neither, but it’s not like we have a choice. This is the world that’s being thrust upon us, whether we like it or not. All we can do is resist as much as possible, and apply malicious compliance whenever and wherever possible. Make them suffer and pay for it as much as possible, which frankly, isn’t much.
Create semipermeable intentional communities that center around convivial technology and human empowerment?
For real, this isn’t going to get better and every day that passes I ask myself “what is this actually buying me? Do I even like this?”
I know the common refrain is we can’t “bury our heads in the sand” but history tells us that humans take the path of least resistance and that path is the “sloppening”
I’ve been wondering this very question since the release of Muse. LLMs can’t keep information hazard secrets. How can we expect them to keep private information from personal accounts separate?
I assumed they released a product the way Tesla released Autopilot, seeing liability suits as a cost of doing business.
I think Grok is the most likely AI to leak American info, courtesy of Big Balls.
If you still have a Facebook account, you fully support this clown show.
I have a FB account only for a Buy Nothing group, which is way more good than the harm my occasional logging on to FB is creating.
So you’re wrong.
If only there was some way to share free stuff with your neighbors without using fb… sigh
No, I’m not. And Facebook’s shareholders thank you for numbering among their active users.
You support everything they do.
I was forced to create a Facebook account to buy/sell second hand stuff. No one browses Kijiji, shit just stays there for ages until someone lowballs you 3 months later. Same for LesPACs.
On Marketplace, my stuff was gone within 2 days.
Fucking sucks. I really hate Meta. I held out for as long as I could, but if you want to buy / sell second hand goods, the competition is 100% dead, at least in Montreal.
Yep, that’s all I use it for. I used to run ads on both Craigslist and FB, but NOBODY looks at Craigslist anymore.
You have an account, you count as an active user. Congrats. You are part of their profits.
Delete the account of support their platform. There is no grey area.
I’m open to another suggestion regarding buying and selling used goods. As previously stated, I don’t see a viable alternative. All the good stuff is on Marketplace. Very few bother to sell outside of that platform anymore, and few look at other platforms.
I just still use good old Craigslist. The last honest site on the Internet. You know it wasn’t built by AI, because the damn thing hasn’t changed since 1998. It’s absolutely glorious.
We don’t have CL in Quebec. I mean we do, but no one uses it, it has never been a thing here.
Ah. I’m sorry. I’ve actually tried to recreate a Meta account just for FB Marketplace reasons, but for some reason the setup process always fails. It just doesn’t work, and I think after a few to many failures (or maybe because I deleted the account), it just seems to lock me out of the process entirely. IDK. Thankfully in my area Craigslist is pretty active.
You’re supporting their bullshit. There’s no justification for it.
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As expected.
Just be sure not to complain about the practices of any company or their mistreatment of their employees when you have shown that boycotts are only an option if they’re convenient to you. Otherwise:
You got yours. That’s what matters.
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I actually forgot that LesPAC was a thing, I’ll check it out.
I got dogpiled for saying it, but Marketplace is remarkably unenshittified. It’s bare bones internet from 2010. The worst thing about it is directing you to ads, or annoyingly pushing you to mail items (where they can take a cut), but compared to the main social feed, it’s much more focused on what you actually want.
That’s why everyone uses it. If it were actually enshittified, there’s plenty of competitors out there.
I tried one the other day, but it required a photo ID to sell, so I said naw to that.
Calling marketplace, which requires a login and a scan of your face and probably a blood sample these days, barebones is hilarious. Have you never used Craigslist? It accomplishes the exact same thing and is actually barebones.
I’ve had a facebook account from early days, so haven’t had to go through that. Fair crticism, though.
I get dogpiled for saying it, but craigslist was and is fine, and there’s no reason to move off of it
You’ve given more away to Facebook. If Facebook hasn’t asked for photo ID it’s because its system is confidant it knows who you really are. Other people will be asked for photo ID when signing up for a Facebook account.
I didn’t need any form of ID, I post anonymously
I am an old fart and still find pretty solid deals on craigslist.
I need to send my id to facebook to unlock my account to login if i want to delete it
Typical behavior by this company and I expect worse. If it makes you sleep better at night, they probably don’t actually delete accounts when requested. They have ghost profiles, after all.
I’ve made it a point to give them very little of my data over the years. I recently applied for a job there because I have a friend that works there. Now they know fucking everything about me. I would not put it past them to be keeping data collected from applicant résumés somewhere as well.
I’m out of the loop, what on earth is Muse? Is it another chatbot?
Yes, it’s Meta’s new chatbot, because they didn’t want Llama anymore
All these things I take as a admission of guilt. They know they are going to break the law but its okay we told you about it before hand.
They already have buyers lined up.
Meta asking users to hand over bank accounts, email archives and passwords while its own engineers reportedly call a massive breach »inevitable« is quite the sales pitch. At this point, Muse isn’t a personal assistant: it’s a beautifully branded single point of failure with Zuckerberg’s logo on it.
People just submitted it.
I don’t know why.
They “trust me”
Dumb fucks. -mzIt’s one more data harvesting tool on their belt.
People are sharing bank accounts and other sensitive data with Meta? Have these people been living under a rock or what?
Could be business side like paying for ads. I think facebook also has built in payment for marketplace which probably takes some fee
Might be moee like my workplace where the management has decided it’s ok to feed all our files and their emails to AI because it can produce something that looks like work from them.
No thought to what it could do with that information.
My company at least has an enterprise contract with Anthropic where Anthropic pinky promises not to collect the company’s data or train their models on company IP. Given their history of piracy and desperate need for data, I wouldn’t put it past Anthropic to still be collecting company data and training their models on it. Without such a contract in place, though, companies are blatantly just giving away their IP, trade secrets, etc.
I only use tokens from pure inference providers. Those that don’t have training in their business model.
My company has a similar contract they are willing to believe. I dont trust it for a second, its a machine built on theft of different IPs. If they are willing to steal from everyone everywhere they can for training data then why wouldnt they use the clean data we send to it?
Whatsapp business data
marketplace data “Send me the money at xxxxxxxx xx-xx-xx”
instagram influencer pages
it’s absurd how much data meta have access to
Who the fuck thinks it’s a good idea to give zuck access to their bank accounts? Mass delusion we live with… I’m just gobsmacked…
Why does it look like a Fall Guys character
Because he gon fall
The idea of giving an AI model access to my email or bank account makes my head spin.
The good news is you don’t have to think about it or hand it over. The AI asks for full disk access and then pulls it all on its own. I hope you don’t have anything private in your machine.
Some people consider large companies to be inside their circle of trust.
As in “Google is going to protect my privacy by keeping my emails secure”
Giving it any agency at all is maddening to me
Imagine if the guys at the manhattan project were like “there is just NO WAY we’re gonna keep one of these from going off accidentally at some point, it’s INEVITABLE! In fact, ALL of them might go off at once and DESTROY THE WORLD!”
They probably still would have invented it anyways, but just imagine!
I think they were pretty sure that’s what was going to happen, but they had to invent the bomb before anyone else in order to have a deterrent.
This is actually the answer. Zuck, Musk, Pichai, Nadella, Altman, and Amodei all likely understand that AI is not inevitably going to fulfill what they’re promising, but they can’t risk not being in control of a system that could be a single endpoint for nearly all wealth acquisition in the future.
This is all just billionaire FOMO playing out at that scale.
