I realize it won’t be like this forever, but while scrolling Lemmy I eventually come to a point when I start to see a lot of old posts and it’s a perfect signal that I’ve done more than enough scrolling for the day
I agree. Very much like Reddit in the early days.
Also, the level of civility and intellect in the comments is relatively high.
Also, the level of civility and intellect in the comments is relatively high.
Fuck you! No it isn’t you moron.
Wow! I want to upvote, downvote and report you at the same time. Kudos!
In the end all i did was leave this lousy comment
Shut the fuck up, you added nothing.
(Adds nothing myself)
See that single downvote? I did that bitches.
I was going to downvote it too but now I can’t.
Don’t worry I downvoted you so the legacy can continue.
The cycle continues
Moran*
I’m pretty sure that Mulan was a great heroine. Also I think you were using the wrong language.
Way more arguments on Lemmy seem to end with the two users stop down voting each other, and then basically concluding ‘that I see your point but still think you’re wrong because youre over emphasizing x or y’.
Way more arguments on Reddit just end with an endless loop of insulting and talking past each other.
I think the effect is probably like 30% selection bias of people coming to Lemmy more intentionally, and 70% lack of bots. Between paid influence campaigns, and Reddit’s own use of bots to juice engagement, my gut feel is that most of those endless arguments are either directly arguments with bots, or indirectly people who have grown so frustrated arguing with bots in other threads that they’re no longer capable of rational discussion.
Also, Reddit comment quality has nosedived in the past year or so. Like, wildly nosedived. It used to be that there would be at least one comment in the top comments that adds some more interesting context to the story, these days, I almost t never see that on Reddit, but frequently do on Lemmy.
Yeah, I agree.
On reddit it seems the remaining human commentators are those who have taken over the mannerisms of the bots and adjusted to talking to the bots.
And you always get stuck in these endless loops of hostile disagreement.
That’s just not how normal humans argue. Even on the internet.
Normal humans either agree to disagree or just give up. In both cases ending the conversation after all useful things have been said.
reddit also has tons of troll bots, and bot farms to do it. Ru has targeted lemmy yet.
Intellectual? Perhaps. Civil? Not always…
I hope the openness of the platform will continue to allow us to keep it that way as things grow.
Eat shit and die, cunt
Using a combination of top day, mark read on scroll, and hide read, I regularly reach the end of the internet, and am glad.
How do you do this? My main problem with Lemmy is that I always see the same posts
I’m using the Boost for Lemmy app on Android. My memory is that the Sync for Lemmy app also has the “mark read on scroll past” feature. I thought I read a discussion that implied that some web Uis for Lemmy also had this, but that’s not what I use and not what I know.
What client are you using to read Lemmy?
Asking into the void is there a way to do this on Voyager? Swapped from sync cause (far as I could tell) there’s still no mod features and the amount of “glide couldn’t grab this image” was frustrating, but haven’t found a way yet to hide posts you’ve seen. Like I know some links are going to be reposted multiple times, but much as I love tenforward I’ve been scrolling past the same gowron eyes memes the last few days on my feed (they’re great memes, but I can only see them so many times lol).
Apparently yes: https://old.lemmy.ca/post/1605561
Thank you! I’m apparently just blind AF lol. Really appreciate though swapped two days ago and still finding my sea legs :')
I’m confused, is it not on everyone’s settings for their default Lemmy profile?
“Show Read Posts” is a checkmark you can unclick if you want to hide them…
Correct. But the additional feature is available on some clients. The additional feature is to mark posts as read when you merely scroll past them. That way I don’t have to keep scrolling past the same post every time I check Lemmy. I mean, I still scroll past the same link multiple times when different people have posted it to different instances, but I never see the exact same post twice.
Oh interesting, only use desktop so I’m not on mobile so probably missing out on some cool features being developed by others.
Do you feel the apps do a better job of representing a post on the main scroll feed nowadays? I always felt like it lacked context when you were just reading a small excerpt, but I can see something like that easily approved upon and updated.
I do feel the same as the OP poster though, I honestly can’t even get past the first page if I actually click and read the comments and look into the information being presented. One post can completely sidetrack me for a day if people start making claims that are untrue and it’s a whole rabbit hole to get to the bottom of it.
In Boost, I’m happy with Card View that shows pretty big thumbnail and a healthy extract.
Holy shit, at first I thought they were pokemon cards of billionaires like Bezos, Musk etc.
BRB coffee time.
yeah that’s way better, thank you for the edit/image upload (glad I don’t click marked read as often as I should lol). That’s definitely a healthy extract lol. I’ll make sure to suggest boost in the future if someone’s looking for a mobile version.
Jerboa
Jerboa
YOOOOOO that’s friggin AWESOME
Great idea!!!
I mute a ton of communities, and I really like quickly getting to the “end” of All. Then I’ve blocked some other dopamine sites, so I get bored and go play outside 🤣
Wait, the “All” feed has an end? I need to step up my game
You can also really feel that the algorithm doesn’t just blindly promote click/rage bait the way that reddit’s does.
It still gets promoted some times, but the front page isn’t constantly filled with it like Reddit’s is,.
Comment quality is also very well balanced…
Yes but no but.
On a busy day when I only have a limited time to browse and I don’t want to get trapped in the infinite “just one more page bro” cycle? Yeah Lemmy is good for that. But if I need something to pass the time for more than an hour or so (transit layover, extremely delayed appointment, sick day at home, etc) Lemmy has neither the constant influx of new content nor the archive of old content to allow for hours of distracting rabbit holes to explore.
I love this too. I get bored after a while on Lemmy which…is a really good thing. Get some news and memes, and get off.
Them’s some good memes huh
That’s the beauty of having a platform where your engagement does not matter because there are no advertisers to woo.
On the one hand, this could dishearten moderators and admins if there are fewer engagements and traffic in the community.
I like that on Lemmy you can comment on a 20+ hour old thread from the “front page” and still have a good chance at responses or interaction from other users.
Any subreddit that regularly hits the front page of Reddit requires that users comment in the first hour or two of the post being made, or latch onto some chain from the top existing comments, or else your comment is basically just thrown into the void. It’s even worse now that Reddit has started showing day or week old posts on the front page, like why bother commenting on those posts when absolutely no one will see it…
They’re showing day or weed old posts on the front page? I wonder if they’re losing members that give content or is there another reason?
Yep, if you open any subreddit (not including the reddit.com front page), it sprinkles days old posts in with the default “Best” filter. It’s a mystifyingly annoying change because from a user perspective you have to re-read the same post multiple times each week, and there’s no point further commenting on those threads because no one else is still engaging with them.
It’s like the worst of all worlds combination of old forums and old Reddit, because old threads keep getting necro-ed, but users have no control over which ones are coming back or when they do.
you are on to something. after my last acc was shadowbanned for a comment from a mod removal, not even major policy. i started visiting the shadowban subs, thats the only place you can comment and people respond. i noticed almost everyone there has been shadowbanned for no apparent reason, soon after account creation, a simple comment that caught a filter?
it seems like they are culling the reddit population to a small managable group, so they can probably sell it off, also because Musk is responsible for some of the major purges this year, since he has complained to SPEZ on quite a few occasions.
it seems like they are culling the reddit population to a small managable group, so they can probably sell it off,
Is that a thing? Why would they want a smaller user group to sell it? We are talking about Spez, so who tf knows, but that seems really dumb.
I thought it would be because everyone who made content left, kind of like how X is.
they dont want to sell a loud left leaning userbase, the more neutral or right leaning the better
Maybe you’re right, they did seem to be heading that direction a few years ago when I left.
because lemmy is probably more engaged with the “threads more” on reddit its like quick fix, and most of its political, there are on to the next thing that trump has right now, or some thing republicans are doing, also i rarely revisit old political posts anyways, you can get into deep with arguments, and it sometimes doesnt end on reddit.
I disagree, I’d like a greater variety of topics especially on general conversation communities.
Agreed, I like being able to refresh and see all new content. Does it always interest me? No, but at least I had variety. I’m hoping Lemmy will get there soon, but for now I’ll just vote and comment on lemmy and browse reddit without interacting in any way.
Incan agree with that. I miss the active guitar subs from Reddit. I’m hoping we can revive a few here.
I’m also enjoying participating in forums I would never touch in any other medium. I find the people that I disagree with have much better points, with significantly fewer radicals, idiots or crusaders.
I find the people that I disagree with have much better points
Yeah same. I’ve had many more educational moments on Lemmy, in both directions, than I ever did in 10 years on Reddit
I find the people that I disagree with have much better points, with significantly fewer radicals, idiots or crusaders.
Honestly, it gives me hope.
My best experiences online have been as part of smaller communities where you can actually know and recognize other people. I see people commenting on threads and I can remember them talking in a different thread (or multiple threads). So it is much easier to know ‘ok that guy is touchy about this thing but is otherwise a decent person’ and not treat everyone like a 1-dimensional character.
There is also a place to politely challenge others, especially when you see more out on a long (touchy) expressions.
I describing myself there on that limb as well of course. I’ve found myself well challenged several times on a limb.
I’m just happy that I dont have to scroll through dozens of puns before I get to the first coherent post.
Le this narwhal bacon midnight that’s what she said doggo.
It’s true for more popular sub forums but it sucks for hobbies and more niche topics.
Yup, and then if you do endlessly scroll all you get to see either very wild takes, porn, and/or extremely niche start up communities, depending on your level of federation.
Shame it takes so long to get to the good stuff.
If you really want to test out what part of Lemmy you’re actually interested in…
unclick “Show Scores, Show upvotes, Show Downvotes, and Show Upvote %” in your profile settings for a week and report back on what changed for you.
But then how do I jump on the Upvote/Downvote Bandwagon?
It’s funny because people who think they’re above the whole bandwagon thing still don’t realize how just seeing the numbers causes a response in them. This site is 1,000x less interesting in a social aspect when you can’t see that engagement, you’ll find yourself logging in less and less till you just don’t see a point in it.
