Put that level of scrutiny on politicians, please.
Yeah and preferably before someone has to shoot them with a homemade shotgun
This punishment does not fit this crime
maybe they assumed he was doing this everyday for 3 decades stright: 7 x 365 x 30 = 77k (add %10 tarrifs) = 84k math checks out
Good. Crime doesn’t pay. I hope he’s learned a lesson.
Crime does pay for many many many people. You living in a fairytale 😂
Asia is so interesting. My coworker went to Japan for 2 weeks this month and said that they’d just follow in line and stare at you if you’re disturbing the public peace. They were sitting at the end of the seats at a station and supposedly they were expected to get up and move to another seat whenever someone else wanted to sit?
And everyone would just be organised in lines when waiting. Quite friendly people, but cold. Nobody would be speaking on public transport and it would be deemed impolite.
My wife from Indonesia also hates it that teenagers are loudly talking to eachother on public transport here in Belgium.
The whole expectation of respect is so different.
So I completely believe it, when a bus driver loses his pension package for stealing 7 USD.
Their streets in Japan are clean while there barely are any public garbage bins available.
Ah, I need to travel more. But where’s the time. We’re expecting a baby. Do people travel with a baby? Is it safe? Is it insane? I think we’re just gonna have to stay put for 3 years or so.
Please don’t travel with a baby
Sincerely,
Someone tired of sitting in planes next to crying, screaming kids
There are other means of travel.
Fuck that. Who made you dictator of travel like Cheeto supremo?
Do dictators say please, you didn’t even say please, who’s the dictator now
Take some earplugs…please. and please don’t travel in or to Canada. We allow babies on planes here. Even crying ones.
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No use fighting these egotistical assholes; they love making their kids the problem of other people. So that they won’t have to suffer in regret alone.
The chance you’ll be in the same plane is very low actually
It’s not just about me
I’m sorry, I’m going through a tunnel… connection is really bad 😬 books 2 plane tickets knowing that baby under 1 year travels free
They were sitting at the end of the seats at a station and supposedly they were expected to get up and move to another seat whenever someone else wanted to sit?
10 years in Japan now and I have zero clue what this might be referring to. Unless they were marked as priority seats, anyone can sit there. They might have been loud or disturbing without realizing it or something?
Nobody would be speaking on public transport and it would be deemed impolite.
It’s not impolite to talk, it’s impolite to be loud. It’s fantastic, IMO, especially on the early, packed trains going into work in Tokyo and the like; the extra stress of noise is not needed and, many days, it served as a naptime.
Their streets in Japan are clean while there barely are any public garbage bins available.
This very much depends upon the area. They’re also clean because people are cleaning up the shit in front of their houses basically every morning. I used to live between some bars and a hotel and those streets were not clean.
Would you get deported if you lose your job or are you secure in your immigration?
In my specific case, my status isn’t tied to a job. In the average foreign worker’s case, there’s generally an allowed job-hunting period if employment ends on a work SoR. If unable to find a job then, yes, you would have to leave after your status expires.
How did you secure permanent residency?
I have spouse status, but my PR application is in (spousal route, though I was almost at 10 years working in Japan to go that route anyway).
Huh, my psychologist said her daughter lives in Japan, is married to a Japanese man and they have a child together. But if she loses her job, then she’d have to leave Japan.
Trying to connect the dots now, cuz you say you can just permanently stay as spouse.
One can apply for PR via spousal route after 3 years of marriage at least one year of that being in Japan. She might be on a work status and not spouse/dependent of japanese national, for whatever reason.
On a work status, shed need to notify immigration withing 14 days of losing her job, but there are ways to get time for job hunting. (14 days from death of spouse on spouse visa, for that matter)
We flew to Japan when our first kid was 9 months old. It was great.
My parents flew from Denmark to Canada for a month, when I was 3 months old. So I reckon you could. Depends on you, your partner, and your kid, on whether you feel comfortable travelling.
Small kids are sick all the time usually with basic stuff but you’ll gave to know your stuff (like when go get a real doctor).
Or get lucky like OP ;-) /jk
In this thread: people who dont understand japanese culture. Except this guy, who heard the truth of japan from their coworker.
What is said is correct.
Also, do you live or work on the region of ghent by any chance?Relatively close to Ghent, you trying to dox me? 🌝
I say too many socially unacceptable things on the internet, Timmy.
My boss would look like when signing my C4:
Oh, same haha. No, its just that i had a coworker return from japan last week too so was checking if we might be talking about the same person haha. Filip lol
Nah the only filip that I know is our lord and saviour
He shall save us from the devil trump! All hail filip!
Ah, so that’s why Japanize like Finland.
In my experience, the younger they are the easier it is to travel. Especially <3 years of age.
“If our strict measures were not accepted, then our organization could become careless and it could result in eroding the public’s trust,” he said.
They don’t think telling this guy to starve in his old age over $7 will undermine public trust? It’s undermining my trust in this official’s judgment right now!
I guess I don’t live in Kyoto so they probably don’t give a rat’s ass what I think.
I think in that culture money follows social appreciation, not value. And that is connected to obedience and ritual. It’s as if his work in those decades was service as it should be, then he committed a sacrilege.
And he’s low in hierarchy. Asians love hierarchies.
I don’t know. Maybe that work ethic is wrong, in most manga\anime I’ve seen characters struggle against it, and then maybe deliver through pure genius outside it, only to be appreciated as “barely did it”.
But they have a point too about erosion. I see it everywhere.
Man sentenced to economic death for profaning a transportation ritual.
Humans are animals.
Yup.
In the US, they just lay you off and say sorry we have to make sacrifices. No cause, no nothing.
or they try to fire you before your 20years is up.
Still seems quite excessive
The punishment is 12,000x the crime.
There really should be a cap on this sort of thing.
But hey, I once got suspended in school for stealing 5 cents. I even admitted to quite openly.
Lies when stealing the money
Lies when asked to confess, likely so they could find a way to keep him on staff if he told the truth.
Sorry dude, honesty counts.
Not that much over 7 dollars, get fucked
Ya reckon it was the only $7 eh?
I agree he fucked up bad enough to get fired and for some kind of punitive fine, but 84k worth of pension (the entire pension, which is itself a problem) is entirely too much. It completely pulls the rug out of the rest of his life, which is also when he’ll be most vulnerable and least able to push through hardships. That pension is also too little to truly retire on, maybe the old man has been on survival mode for a long time. Maybe. I was once poor enough that 15 dollars’ worth of an unexpected expense caused enough anxiety to make me want to recalculate my budget that month. I was in college with a minimum wage job and doing everything I could to save a dollar and still only keeping my head above water, relying on sharing a room for rent. Would I have risked my job? Hell no. But would I have taken 7$ from somewhere if I felt I could truly get away with it and I was taking it from some large organization that is guaranteed to stay running from government? Maybe. It might mean a dinner I really needed to keep going. It would still weigh on my conscience, but your brain and sense of self can change when you’re that vulnerable for that long.
It took many years for me to undo some of the effects that has on your sympathetic system of the brain. Still probably fuels some things.
I could easily see how someone could become callous to such small thefts as a wrong deed and even somewhat justified if they felt a part of an unfair system. Which is arguable. There’s plenty of people who try to take advantage or take the opportunity to knock you down as less-than because of your financial situation when you are that poor. Life is different. The world in which you live is very different. I don’t know every detail, all I know is it’s not as easy to judge as someone who doesn’t have or hasn’t had those hardships.
Sorry to belabor the point, but it’s also worth pointing out that even from a more pragmatic standpoint, we know that overly punitive sentences result in more recidivism across different types of crime, especially if you’re exacerbating the reason they might’ve done it in the first place.
Seems to be a case of FAFO looking at the article
Yeah but the FO is way too excessive. This man will likely be homeless when he retires or end up working at a 7-11 into his 70s at this rate. All for seven bucks.
This was presumably just some government-job-specific pension. Japanese law requires paying into a pension scheme so it is doubtful that this is all he had. We also have iDECO and NISA which are like IRA/401k systems.
Yeah. Of course, I feel sorry for him, but when he stole in front of a camera he had to know about, well…
It was not fessing up when he got caught that’s the worst bit
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