Because Slopya has been shoving it down our throats everywhere. Office, Windows, GitHub,…
Well yeah, you rename a core product to Copilot and suddenly you have tons of users
They have like 7 different, separate, copilots 😆
You mean Word, Excel, and so on…
OS takes a screenshot every five seconds. CEO: “Damn, look how much it is being used!” /s
I just rebuilt my Win 11 Pro Workstation setup (yes, it is the version for stupidly high core and thread counts), and one of the first things I did was to violently eviscerate anything AI in the system. Right after gleefully ripping out all the telemetry and spyware.
You stopped a bit short on your delete spree I guess.
But then again, I don’t know your workflow and needs; so I’m glad it works for you.
You stopped a bit short on your delete spree I guess.
No, that was just the first two steps. Just on the “rip shit out” category, I typically churn through at least three separate tools, usually in this order:
- Win10Privacy
- Win11Debloat
- Winslop
I mean, sure, Windows can take as little as a half hour to “install”. But on a personal rig (which also includes my own workflow software and personal data shoehorned back into place), I take another 24-48 hours to gleefully beat it into submission and install secondary programs that bypass the warts it has acquired over the years.
And as a benchmark, XP needed only about 6-8hrs of extra work to reach the same threshold of data migration, workflow software, and improved usability (I was an NT fanboy, IMO the primary improvement of XP over 2000 was the start menu).
If we add up the AI push, the spyware/telemetry explosion, the recent attempts to force the use of a Microsoft Account as the default login, and the massive bloating and instability of Windows in general, it’s slowly becoming time for even non-technical, everyday users to move to Linux.
Won’t all of that just reinstall itself after the next update?
In my experience, no if properly debloated.
I have it on my work laptop, because unfortunately my company bought into the hype. Every once in a while I ask it how to do a thing, just to see if it will help. So far copilot has been wrong 100% of the time.
I have to give it this much respect: When I logged in to office.com (for work) recently and was confronted with the Copilot chat-box, I asked it how to disable Copilot. It was honest, and told me that it’s not possible because this is Microsoft’s new product strategy. Then, I asked how I could never see Copilot again.
It (no joke!) told me to install Linux.
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Yeah, I fucking hate that. At least the Windows/Magic/Menu button has a conceptual equivalent in every major OS, so it does something Start Menu adjacent, but the Copilot button is a really arrogant overstep, like when you get a TV with a Netflix button on the remote.
Doubt
XPeople are using AI a lot, or people were already using programs with recently added AI features a lot?
Day 1: We have 1 million Excel users.
Day 2: we added Copilot to Excel, we have 1 million new CoPilot users!
I see you know corporate math well
One of my bosses was screen sharing with me this week and had co-pilot up in Excel. I don’t know what he was doing with it. he started fucking around with it while he was screen sharing, just doing something unrelated to what we were talking about. I know he was just trying to bait me into asking what was going on.
fuck that, I don’t care, I know you love your AI, I don’t give a shit, it’s not useful for what I do and I don’t want to talk about how it can almost do something kind of right
I love/hate that this is a common experience. Someone did this to me too, although this was sort of a work friend taking the piss.
I have straight up backhandedly implied people senior to me who get paid 5x more than I do are throwing any possible expertise they might have out of the window. To their face. My stance on these slop extruders is well known among my colleagues.
I’ve even told people who used them in front of me, in a gentle but unflinching way, that their willingness to use them uncritically is a red flag for me and that comparing my genuine work to general machine output is something I can’t simply decide not to take as an insult. Including people who are supposed to review my work. As a professional I have to do something that exceeds the first page of Google in specificity. I do the long yards. Why is that suddenly a problem? If our work was this simple why are we getting paid to do it?
Some of these people trust me enough that they’re getting queasy about the whole AI thing after initially giving in. Yeah it’s decent at summarizing mass emails from corporate. Summarizing mass emails from corporate is not our fucking job. At least two people were paid subscribers to OpenAI’s product and no longer pay for chatbots. Proselytizing against the death of critical thinking is not a lost cause.
I have to get the fuck out of corporate.
That’d be my guess.
I have never once went out of my way to use Gemini, for example, but having it appear in every other Google search with some lying bullshit to spread is probably driving up their engagement numbers.
I really should stop using Google. But can’t use DDG either because they just use Bing and their own AI service as well, and so does Kagi.
you can turn off ai and block ai content in ddg settings.DDG uses its own basket of search indexes, Bing is now under 10% or so of total index usage in the big 26. Also yeah, noai ddg is awesome.
If it helps, you can use https://noai.duckduckgo.com/ to stop the auto-AI inserts.
Yeah but you can do the same with Google as well (just can’t be arsed to change the search settings on my work PC), it’s the principle of the thing.
So you can’t be arsed to live up to your own principles?
I can’t be arsed to keep up with changing the config of the browser I didn’t choose every time the device updates with new admin-defined settings. That’s all.
On my personal device I still use Google right now for consistency/because change is hard, but I set the default behavior in Firefox to exclude AI results.
I’d just prefer to use/support a search engine that abstains from AI entirely, regardless of whether or not you can turn it off. I don’t want to be a happy customer of companies that still try to weasel that stuff in, because they won’t stop at a toggle. They never do.
Kagi has AI features, but I’ve only ever seen them in the settings. They have never once pushed me to use them. Which is good, as that would be pretty much a dealbreaker.
Kagi AI is opt-in. As in, you don’t go out of your way to use it, you won’t.
Isn’t Copilot integrated with the Windows taskbar search?
I think the sole reason Copilot is used at all is because they’ve forced it in applications it has no place in, and requires it remain on by default.
It’s in fucking notepad
I have never liked having a search box in the taskbar. My taskbar is for pinned programs, open programs, volume, Ethernet/wifi, and a clock. Nothing more.
You can remove copilot from windows 11 completely now…with an outside program.
I love having a search box on my taskbar. I want it to search my PC for installed apps and files and nothing else. I certainly don’t want to do a fucking Bing search for “Settings”
yeah, I actually like it now, but that’s mostly because they made the start menu so fucked up and full of shit
I’ve adjusted to just hitting start and typing the first few characters of what I want to open and slapping enter. I’m okay with that process, I actually kind of like it. I don’t need to look at what’s going on and I don’t need to move my hand over to the mouse. The only problem, and this is kind of a big thing, is that yeah it doesn’t search just my fucking installed programs, and sometimes it just opens another program that doesn’t even match what I typed. so the 60% success rate at best is kind of a big failure
Its so slow as well. It regularly takes a few seconds to appear when I try and use it
It seems like a waste of space on the taskbar, to me
In the Start Menu/Finder/KRunner/wofi I want it to search, but I don’t need the text input box visible at all times taking space
The original Copilot is GitHub Copilot which is a coding assistant and it’s very popular and useful for developers. I think most of the paying copilot customers and usage are coming from there.
They renamed “Office 365” to “Microsoft 365 Copilot”.
Oh no you should not say slop it hurts feelings.
Clanker-wankers don’t have feelings
Hurt shareholders, you mean?
Feelings.
Shareholders have feelings?
Lol, no
Hey, Satya. You aren’t fooling anyone and you don’t have the knack of bald-faced lying like Kristi and Donny.
I used it for my first time this year. For like a week. That was all.
Then you’re part of “monthly active Copilot users” - at least for that month
Indeed. Haven’t touched it since
Probably GitHub Copilot.
The rest just sucks.
Well, if you count its uninstall feature, sure.
Because they keep cramming it in all my apps at work and every time I load my email, it tries to open Copilot?
