Waaaaaaaaay too expensive, but I’d love it if big eink displays became a thing, even with shit refresh rates, mostly because I want some for displaying Home Assistant dashboards.
I bought a trmnl and it’s pricey but works pretty good. I’ve mostly been using a few out-of-the-box plugins for it.
There is a selfhosted/offline version of the server you can run for it, so it can be ‘offline’ in theory. I keep meaning to mess with it more but haven’t put the time aside.
Feel like we’ve been waiting a long time for it :(
There’s this range of Philips signage displays in up to 32" (~$1800 USD): https://www.ppds.com/display-solutions/digital-signage/philips-tableaux
They even run Android, so should be able to install the Home Assistant app natively. Being intended as a signage solution, there’s also PoE (although it is 45W 802.3bt class5), and even room for four 18650 batteries.
Notably though, they use the newer E-Ink “Spectra” (16 bit, 65,536 colour) panel which offers its full 2560x1600 resolution in both greyscale and colour, not the “Kaleido” one (12 bit, 4096 colour) of this Boox monitor that only has half of its 3200x1800 resolution in colour (Boox recommend using 1400x1050).
I don’t know which of the two panels offers better refresh rates, however.
If I could get a laptop with a screen like this, I could finally sit outside in a park and code like nature intended.
That… would actually be pretty dope
I’m thinking at those prices this is probably intended for corporations that absolutely need a readable display in bright sunlight areas but don’t really care about refresh rate or color depth.
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I did see something a few months ago about a company making large color e-Ink displays for applications like that and outdoor advertising at bus stops and the like
I can see how this would be very attractive to a writer.
How many seconds per frame does it get?
Not sure yet, we’re still waiting for the first frame to finish.
Enough to run doom
It can display Oblivion Remastered at it’s native framerate though.
Wow, relive the early days of really fucking terrible LCD displays for just under $2000.
What a time to be alive…
Why, for the love of all the gods, do people keep saying and writing “LCD display”.
Tell me what the “D” in “LCD” means!
What does the “D” mean, hmmm!?
The same as the M in ATM machine and N in PIN number, V in HIV virus and C in UPC code!
Oh, the dreaded RAS syndrome!.I’m off to read some DC comics.
I will be reporting this to the American Association Against Acronym Abuse!
I’ll remember that the next time I enter my PIN number at an ATM machine.
You really need to learn about RAS syndrome.
Diode?
Display
Ok, so what’s up with that LC display.
This kind of redundancy creates semantic resilience, thats why we take the type name out of acronyms.
Instead, when designing acronyms leave the type name out of it.
it means peDantic
For a work machine with a lot of text and little graphics, this is great. Less eye strain for long periods.
In theory yes. But after seeing a review yesterday I am fully disappointed. Even text looks like shit on this monitor.
Maybe in 30 years when the patents expire.
Not going to happen. The fog is coming.
I can guess what you are alluding to. But explain anyways.
I’m really keen on one of these displays eventually, as I can set aside the issues with refresh rate and colour accuracy, but the price needs to drop way down. It needs to be competitive with regular LCD monitors.
I look at terminals all day for work, this would make it so much more comfortable.
I’m good.
What is the refresh time? They carefully avoid mentioning that. There’s a comparable Pimoroni monitor whose refresh takes 14 seconds so I’d call it a static display rather than a computer monitor.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwwKuvCPKya/
(Not an advertisement - just first google result)
That is a video of a much smaller monitor. It does show reasonably responsive refresh. Do you have one of the 25.3 inch monitor described in the article?
Maybe it’d be useful as a low powered interactive kiosk display? Price needs to come down tremendously before this thing becomes competitive.
Looks awesome on the photo, but I guess I have better uses for such money and night sky and trees for enjoying what I see.
Also lower refresh rates are not such a terrible problem when it’s not a CRT blinking in front of you.
Grainy look is kinda fine. That’s about the “compromises” part.
So a cheaper one I’d probably use. Being part of some dream computer to be useful in transport, while walking, at home, with battery life longer than nuclear fallout effects and unbreakable box and EOL date of the kind castles in Europe have. Otherwise nah, many other things to break my eyes against.
Obligatory Linus video for a similar, but not identical, monitor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUxxn53mBE
This Dasung model is mentioned at the bottom of the article. TL;DW: These things have the exact list of drawbacks you think they do including miserable contrast, color accuracy so bad it’s fallen off the bottom of the chart, a low refresh rate, and quite a bit of ghosting. So it’s awful, but surprisingly not as awful as you’d think if your primary experience is an e-reader form the first couple of generations. Linus being Linus he does attempt to game on it and gets… a result… but this is a display technology with niche applications and still best suited to displaying mostly static content.
I own this. It is horrible. If the specs were real it would be great, but the specs are not real. It is a 3k black and white monitor with a fixed color filter over it. That means you need 3x3 pixels to resemble a color.
I consider it a scam from Dasung.
Boox on the other hand made a sane black and white display. Much better. I own a Max 2 Pro. Sadly they fail to understand that when you report a display as 20px smaller than it really is over an HDMI port and then rescale the image of the computer display on that, that it becomes really uncrisp. Their suggestion is to use the display with 200% scaling (so you don’t notice as much I suppose).
Epaper is really promising and nice. However both of these companies should either get some real competition or lawsuits.
What’s the refresh rate and can I play Hunt showdown on it? They say a similar model has a 33hz refresh rate but don’t mention this model
Please note that even at 30hz eink displays still have hundreds of milliseconds of latency
Ah yes just in time for the trade war! Better get yours now
The US takes tariffs on the good stuff? Looks like there will be more stuff for us in the future.
