Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he remains “ready to sign” a US-Ukraine minerals deal despite leaving the White House without an agreement following a contentious meeting with Trump.

Speaking in London after a European leaders’ summit, Zelensky emphasized that their fractious meeting only benefited Putin.

Refusing to discuss territorial concessions, he stated the “best security guarantees are a strong Ukrainian army.”

Responding to calls from Senator Graham that he resign, Zelensky quipped he is “exchangeable for NATO” membership, saying this would mean he had “fulfilled my mission.”

  • BetaBlake@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 months ago

    He totally should agree to whatever, and just reneg on the deal once he gets what he wants. It’s what Trump would do anyways, fuck any actual “deal” you have with dishonorable people.

    • VeryInterestingTable@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      Remember in diablo II when you had to drop the item of the floor to trade and people waited for the other one to drop the item first then steal the item? That’s geopolitics in a nutshell lol.

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 months ago

        That was Diablo 1. In Diablo II they had the trade window.

        And besides, you don’t just drop it right next to them! You both drop your stuff a screen apart and then walk past each other to pick it up.

    • recall519@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      I disagree. Democrats would likely take advantage of the agreement if they win the next election.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 months ago

    Yeah, Zelensky was never against a mineral deal. His whole reason of not signing was because the US doesn’t want to give Ukraine assurances for where Russia breaks the peace treaty again.

    Quite literally what Trump is trying to do is muscle the wealth of Ukraine away from them and leave them with nothing. If Zelensky agrees to that, thousands of Ukrainians will have died for nothing.

  • cmoney@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    2 months ago

    Remember when Ukraine made a deal to give up it’s nuclear weapons in exchange for security? pepperidge farm remembers.

  • jaybone@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    2 months ago

    He’s better off without a US deal. Trump won’t do shit to help him. That’s as good as signing a deal with Putin.

  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    I wish he wouldn’t. I know he doesn’t feel like he has much choice but to try and deal with the US, but as a USIAN, I wish he wouldn’t trust this administration. They’re going to rugpull him and the entire country of Ukraine literally whenever they want, they’re going to try and make Ukraine a neocolonial asset, and I just wish that he wouldn’t grant this administration the legitimacy of trying to negotiate with them in good faith.

  • wewbull@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    I’m still at a loss what Ukraine would get out of this deal. It’s not weapons

    • snooggums@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      The goal is US security guarantees, as in US military enforcing any ceasefire agreement with Russia.

      I don’t think that guarantee is worth the paper it is written on as long as Trump is in office, but that is the goal.

      • wewbull@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        However the deal doesn’t contain security guarantees, which Zelensky was complaining about.

      • Skiluros@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Any long-term agreement with any US administration is not worth anything.

        This is not even purely a Trump thing. We saw this with the Budapest Memorandum.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Taiwan is silently but furiously preparing for us to not help in the event of a Chinese invasion.

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    It’s kind of absurd that “western” leaders aren’t chomping at the bit for that minerals deal. USA might think they’d get the minerals without putting in the required effort, but Europeans can’t hope for that. Maybe we just actually can’t deliver what’s required for a good-faith deal?

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 months ago

        Meh, both are considered correct today. Might as well complain that almost every sentence in American English contains misspellings because it’s different from British English.

        • MichaelScotch@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 months ago

          No, words mean something. Either use it correctly because you know what it means, or don’t use the saying at all. Use a different phrase.

          • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 months ago

            So, any thoughts on this Ukraine mineral deal situation? It’s interesting that you chose to debate the difference between ‘champing’ and ‘chomping’ instead of engaging with the actual topic of the post and my comment.

            • MichaelScotch@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              2 months ago

              I’m not choosing to debate anything. I’m just saying it’s champing, not chomping. No debate. I agree with you otherwise

  • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    This should be a referendum. Zelensky has staked his reputation and legitimacy on winning this war. If the question is independence and more war or become a colony of Russia then a lot would be on board. If the question is become a colony of Russia and peace or become a colony of America and more war, I think that’s a tougher call to make.