• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I cannot comprehend people who agree to have a spy in their own home and they even pay for the privilege.

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      29 days ago

      Its easy, people simply dont even think that it could be used to spy on them. Its just handy and funny tool. There is HUGE problem in the world with majority still naively trusting corporations to such extent saying anything to contrary seems like you are some conspiracy nut. Or if they don’t trust them naively, they are so apathetic that they just think their information leaking doesnt matter, it can’t be stopped anyway and that they just dont care about it.

      Something really should be done to start having people care about things again, otherwise everyone will lose all rights to privacy eventually.

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        29 days ago

        I mean, I have some, because I already know my phone is spying on me even more aggressively. I don’t have any illusion that I had privacy in the first place

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          29 days ago

          I dont know about other models but I think I have managed to limit how much my phone (fairphone) spies on me quite decently.

          I installed application called ReThink, which is basically a firewall and I can block even google services with it. I know it works because its really pain in the ass when I want to use their services like calendar and i have to temporarily unblock it. It can also block ads by completely blocking internet for programs that dont really need it. I have also removed/disabled anything extra and removed permissions to anything that absolutely doesn’t need it. It also alerted me to that stupid google safetycore spyware being installed (by blocking and informing about newly installed program) so i managed to remove that immediately.

          At least according to the logs the phone seems secure, since nothing is being allowed to connect anywhere that shouldn’t be allowed. Can’t do much to occasional breaches due to restarts or temporary allowings, but I dont think such sparse information is much use or it might require more effort to utilise.

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        29 days ago

        To see whether a small incentive could influence a decision about privacy, researchers offered one group of students a free pizza — as long as they disclosed three friends’ email addresses.An overwhelming majority of the students chose pizza over protecting their friends’ privacy.

        While I don’t dispute the thesis, this is deeply flawed.

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            28 days ago

            These students are giving away someone else’s email addresses. They may deeply care about their own privacy and not care about the privacy of their friends. Plus giving away just email addresses (assuming there was nothing else) for a free pizza is not necessarily any invasion of privacy as these can be simply made up.

            So I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from this exercise.

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      30 days ago

      I have a theory that they understand this is wrong, but also feel the social pressure (ads work this way, remember), and thus decide to go all way in, in the most absurd ways, fully, to suppress their feeling of doing a stupid thing.

      OK, not a theory, rather my experience with starting to use an Android phone

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      30 days ago

      I have HomePods to activate my lights, and listen to the news in the shower. Sure, it doesn’t do all the fancy shit that Alexa does, but at least Apple has a track record of respecting privacy.

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        29 days ago

        but at least Apple has a track record of respecting privacy.

        …to keep the same amount of data for themselve.

        Don’t kid yourself. Apple collects the same amount as everyone else does. And if either get hacked, it doesnt matter if they keep it or sell it.

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          29 days ago

          They say they don’t associate the data they collect with anyone. There’s no way to trace back to my device.

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            29 days ago

            That doesn’t work. Data can and has been deanonymized previously. It’s still very much unsafe if it falls in the wrong hands

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            29 days ago

            “Oh yeah we collect data. Anonymously.”

            That has literally the same energy as some other user pointed out here about Valve and Gaben with their brain implant.
            Gaben is the harbinger of light for many but us still a billionaire that got the money from somewhere. Thus is also evil. Just not as much as, for example, Bezos.
            Apple is evil. At least equal to Google in different aspects.

            Stop cheering for anti-consumer companies.

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        29 days ago

        I sold my Alexa devices when the Sidewalk crap came out

        Still waiting for a replacement for the Echo Show though, having a smart speaker with a display was handy at times