• FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    I cannot comprehend people who agree to have a spy in their own home and they even pay for the privilege.

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      29 days ago

      Its easy, people simply dont even think that it could be used to spy on them. Its just handy and funny tool. There is HUGE problem in the world with majority still naively trusting corporations to such extent saying anything to contrary seems like you are some conspiracy nut. Or if they don’t trust them naively, they are so apathetic that they just think their information leaking doesnt matter, it can’t be stopped anyway and that they just dont care about it.

      Something really should be done to start having people care about things again, otherwise everyone will lose all rights to privacy eventually.

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        29 days ago

        I mean, I have some, because I already know my phone is spying on me even more aggressively. I don’t have any illusion that I had privacy in the first place

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          29 days ago

          I dont know about other models but I think I have managed to limit how much my phone (fairphone) spies on me quite decently.

          I installed application called ReThink, which is basically a firewall and I can block even google services with it. I know it works because its really pain in the ass when I want to use their services like calendar and i have to temporarily unblock it. It can also block ads by completely blocking internet for programs that dont really need it. I have also removed/disabled anything extra and removed permissions to anything that absolutely doesn’t need it. It also alerted me to that stupid google safetycore spyware being installed (by blocking and informing about newly installed program) so i managed to remove that immediately.

          At least according to the logs the phone seems secure, since nothing is being allowed to connect anywhere that shouldn’t be allowed. Can’t do much to occasional breaches due to restarts or temporary allowings, but I dont think such sparse information is much use or it might require more effort to utilise.

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        29 days ago

        To see whether a small incentive could influence a decision about privacy, researchers offered one group of students a free pizza — as long as they disclosed three friends’ email addresses.An overwhelming majority of the students chose pizza over protecting their friends’ privacy.

        While I don’t dispute the thesis, this is deeply flawed.

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            28 days ago

            These students are giving away someone else’s email addresses. They may deeply care about their own privacy and not care about the privacy of their friends. Plus giving away just email addresses (assuming there was nothing else) for a free pizza is not necessarily any invasion of privacy as these can be simply made up.

            So I wouldn’t draw any conclusions from this exercise.

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      30 days ago

      I have a theory that they understand this is wrong, but also feel the social pressure (ads work this way, remember), and thus decide to go all way in, in the most absurd ways, fully, to suppress their feeling of doing a stupid thing.

      OK, not a theory, rather my experience with starting to use an Android phone

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      30 days ago

      I have HomePods to activate my lights, and listen to the news in the shower. Sure, it doesn’t do all the fancy shit that Alexa does, but at least Apple has a track record of respecting privacy.

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        but at least Apple has a track record of respecting privacy.

        …to keep the same amount of data for themselve.

        Don’t kid yourself. Apple collects the same amount as everyone else does. And if either get hacked, it doesnt matter if they keep it or sell it.

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          29 days ago

          They say they don’t associate the data they collect with anyone. There’s no way to trace back to my device.

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            29 days ago

            That doesn’t work. Data can and has been deanonymized previously. It’s still very much unsafe if it falls in the wrong hands

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            29 days ago

            “Oh yeah we collect data. Anonymously.”

            That has literally the same energy as some other user pointed out here about Valve and Gaben with their brain implant.
            Gaben is the harbinger of light for many but us still a billionaire that got the money from somewhere. Thus is also evil. Just not as much as, for example, Bezos.
            Apple is evil. At least equal to Google in different aspects.

            Stop cheering for anti-consumer companies.

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        29 days ago

        I sold my Alexa devices when the Sidewalk crap came out

        Still waiting for a replacement for the Echo Show though, having a smart speaker with a display was handy at times

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    1 month ago

    The most concerning part about this article is that they put one in their nine-year-old’s bedroom.

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      29 days ago

      To add to the other responses, and I suspect the real reason, is that Coco is listening to Audible Audio books regularly and/or music. It’s mentioned and then dropped by the article fairly quickly.

      Interesting how every comment on the article is doing the “you’re a terrible parent, how could you do that” routine when I’ll bet it’s there because Coco either took the first one in or asked for a second one. Kid wants, kid normally gets one way or another.

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        28 days ago

        Also, surely this device is no different to a phone in that neither is meant to be listening indiscriminately. There’s a chance a 9 year old has a phone nowadays I’d imagine

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    1 month ago

    I asked my google home the same question and it told me that I told it that my dog is a good girl 3 times. I know it’s not great for privacy, but it made me chuckle.

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    29 days ago

    It’s completely irrelevant to the article, but I can’t believe nobody mentioned how many fucking headphones this person goes through lol

    particulars of every purchase I’ve ever made – from the noir novel I bought on the day that Amazon UK launched to the 28th pair of headphones acquired in as many years

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      28 days ago

      “In as many years” is doing a lot of work there. I dont think Amazon was selling headphones in 1997.

      That said if they are spending 10-40 bucks on headphones a year they are doing alright.

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        Are they?? Am I the weird one for not constantly breaking headphones? I’m in my 30s and I can count on two hands the number of headphones I’ve had in my entire life and several of them I got for free with iPhones

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          28 days ago

          I paid I think 250 for earphones over covid. They went in the wash a few weeks ago. I’ll probably spend between 300 and 400 on a replacement. That will ~700 spent which I would hope would do me for at least an additional five years so 70 a year is more than what I would imagine they are spending annually.

          That said I expect mine to be better

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            That’s fair I suppose. I buy quality to last as well. I’ve only bought two pairs of headphones in the last 10 years. One pair is wired in ear studio monitors that came with a pouch to prevent damage and the other was some wired over the ear open backs for when I need to be quiet at my desk.

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              We are lucky to be able to to make decisions that take us out of false economy situations. Inwould have bought multiples when I was younger, I might only have 10-30 to spend when I’d need/want them.

              This is agood example of how it can be more expensive to be poor, the old example being boots that are half thebpricr lasting a quarter of time of the alternative.

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      28 days ago

      I absolutely tear through headphones. When they’re wired, the wire breaks where it meets the earpiece. When they’re wireless, the battery last like two hours. The USB port on my phone is long dead, and they don’t sell phones with the old headphone jack that didn’t break.

      But I still refuse to be that guy playing music on the bus.

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        28 days ago

        You need to buy a pair of good ones. Not hyped, not endorsed by whatever weird rap singer, but good ones.
        I bought a pair of good BT headphones 10 years ago, and they still going great. 10 years ago the battery lasted 20 hours, now it’s around 12 or so, which is still more than enough.

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            I don’t know the exact model unfortunately, It’s Sennheiser and they’re all weird. The old one can’t connect to their new configuration software so I can’t check.
            I also have their newer version, Momentum 3, and can very much recommend that one, all the same great quality, but also Bluetooth 5.0

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        Buy some on-ears or (better yet) over-ears, still rocking my Sony WH-CH700N for almost 6 years. Can’t find a successor for them, CH710N and CH720N for unknown reasons got rid of aptX ;_;