Data analysed by the BBC show that Ukraine’s Western allies have paid Russia more for its hydrocarbons than they have given Ukraine in aid.

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    These stories about EU supporting Russia because we still buy gas and oil from them are total bullshit.
    The entire energy sektor in Russia is now running at a deficit, all because of EU boycott.
    Even gazprom that used to be the most profitable company in Russia, is now running with losses!

    EU is even planning to vain itself even further from dependency on Russian gaz, and is even planning to support this effort for some of the countries this will hit.

    On top of that EU is planning to reduce the maximum price allowed to pay for Russian oil to only $40. Which will decrease the price they get from other countries too, because Russia is desperately needing the currency, and they can’t afford to say no to a bad deal.

    Also the graph that shows aid to Ukraine is decidedly wrong, And claims Ukraine only received $73bn when in fact it’s €158bn.
    https://www.eeas.europa.eu/delegations/united-states-america/eu-assistance-ukraine-us-dollars_en?s=253

    Even though some of it are loans “in the form of highly concessional loans”, those loans are generally planned to be paid from other sources than Ukraine if possible.

    I must admit I didn’t read any further, because the article seems more misleading than informing.

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      Yes these companies are losing money, but they have to pay money to the state also when they are not making money. I agree the angle of buying stuff from Russia equals supporting them is bs, but the Russian state does receive money from eu (for which eu gets gas and oil in return) that they can spend on waging war on Ukraine.

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        That is true, but you can’t just cut off a major part of your infrastructure without causing dammage.
        So it’s idiotic to claim that EU should just have cut off everything from Russia day one.
        It’s being cut off as fast as we can. But unfortunately a few countries like Hungary and Slovakia aren’t interested in doing it. And for instance Italy hasn’t done much either.
        But despite that there is wide agreement in EU that we must do this, and the countries that don’t will face consequences.

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    “We now have a situation in which we are funding the aggressor in a war that we’re condemning and also funding the resistance to the war,” she says. “This dependence on fossil fuels means that we are really at the whims of energy markets, global energy producers and hostile dictators.”

    War is a racket.

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      Car culture permeates North America to such a degree that people tie it to their very identity

      It’s really hard for me to imagine us moving away from it but it’s very clear it’s toxic in every way it touches our lives.

      From our dependence on Russian oil, to the climate impact of hydrocarbons, to the exhaust fumes being linked to childhood asthma, to tire particulates being a huge source of microplastics, to the enormous tax subsidies required to even make them viable, to the ways it has shaped our society to be more isolated.

      I truly fucking hate cars.

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        North America has its own large oil reserves and AFAIK its countries mostly trade it with each other. Europe chooses to buy oil and gas from Russia, Saudis and other Asian countries because it’s cheaper due to geographic proximity.