• Rooster326@programming.dev
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      Correction: They are still making big bucks on that deal.

      Vendor lock in, and brand recognition is bigly important.

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    Schools are meant to teach kids how to think critically, along with basic facts.

    Giving them laptops doesn’t teach that part unless you go out of your way for it.

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      Teachers are a cost-center

      Technology is a profit-center

      What are you, some kind of socialist? Your system will never work. We’ll all run out of money!

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      It’s more than just lack of effort here though, it’s systematic pollution they are allowing into our food and water with abandon.

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      Teachers are paid a pittance in the US. Shows our values as a society. They’re educating the next generations, but that doesn’t make number go up right this second, so they are compensated accordingly.

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        In California most of my teachers were making 6 figures in my rural town, the problem is that kids don’t care about learning, their parents especially do not care at all.

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    by design, and when you combine that with AI and generations of people with low attention spans, you get something bad I’m guessing

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      The US public school was always about training you how to behave in a post industrial world. When you disguise a lying machine as an equal or even a divine source of knowledge, nobody will question when it says “there is nothing more to learn about the civil rights movement” or anything else the ruling class doesn’t want you to learn.

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    I suppose what’s needed is to look at data from other countries and see if the data is similar. They’ve found a correlation but, as anybody remotely versed in science should know, correlation does not imply causation

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    People in my school literally failed PE, all you had to do was literally change your clothes. This is just people boogy manning tech so they feel smart. Fact is these kids will not be held back no matter what, and even if you hold them back they don’t care. They don’t see why they should bother learning in school, their parents don’t care about how they are doing in school. Passing American K-12 is essentially putting 4 brain cells of effort. We spend more money on education per capita then the rest of the world. Talk about class sizes, text books blah blah blah dosen’t matter when you have kids bullying teachers out of their jobs

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    And here I am a dumbass thinking it’s the underfunding of teachers and overall mismanagement in persuit of profits.

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    Tech Is Amazing for learning, but the unfortunate truth is that companies got a conflict of interests when it comes to education. The same companies who are pushing the most braindead brainrot and designing apps to be as addictive as humanly possible are then the same ones who sell school learning applications

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    First generation not better, brighter, more adaptable than the prior generation. Fitting, given everything else.

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    I suspect that if Gen Z designed their own cognitive tests, their tests would determine that we older generations were less cognitively capable than them.

    The reality is that every generation adapts in different ways to their own cognitive circumstances.

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      See also Goodhart’s law “When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure”, which may not be completely relevant here, but is likely a factor (probably a lesser one than the systematic underfunding and other political meddling in US schools).

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      I get what you’re saying, but this isn’t a dig at Gen Z. For as long as we’ve been testing, which is like 50 years I think, the new generation has outperformed the previous one and that’s a good thing.

      Having this generation underperform means that we have failed them and we need to figure out exactly how we fucked up. The evidence is really strong that technology in the classroom is a significant contributor.

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        As a Gen z who managed to not be an idiot I’m unconvinced it’s the technology when even in my elementary school years I was beginning to realize how shit the school system is. Technology probably doesn’t make things better but it was failing me in elementary school when the best of the best was the massive brick of a computer Macs in the computer lab was all we had

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          I’m not an expert on this, but I have listened to people talk who are and claim that you can pretty clearly link cognitive decline with the introduction of technology effectively everywhere.

          I’m sure it’s not as clear as “tech bad” but it does seem like screen time and deferring the manual parts of learning to computers is not great for us.

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        in the classroom specifically though? did they control for screen time outside of the classroom in the study?

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    it’s not an accident. they didnt forget how to teach people. the people at the top got their and trashed the place on the way out. its by design.

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    There are studies that show the tactile nature of books and hand written notes improves retention and encourages more thought, so it would seem likely that going more digital would have negative impacts on education.

    Even that grifter Sam Altman was talking about how he takes notes a while back.