“But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human,” Altman said. “It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that, it took the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever, to produce you.”
So in his view, the fair comparison is, “If you ask ChatGPT a question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably, AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis, measured that way.”
We should build a time machine (with the help of AI this should be easy) and plant AI before mankind! We can avoid mankind and prevent that so much energy gets unnecessarily wasted on humans!
before you get smart
Something he never did, apparently
Aren’t humans and biological creatures in general found to be extremely efficient with energy? Given the computing power in our brains the fact it runs on so little is amazing no?
Doesn’t the human brain do what it does on like the same electricity as a lightbulb?
What kind of bulb are we talking here?
In Altman’s case it’s a dimbulb.
Yes, it’s disingenuous for him to bring up all the time used for humans to evolve as well. If we’re going to go that far, we also ought to include the energy/time used by the engineers who created ChatGPT, and all the energy used by plants/animals in the evolution leading to those engineers. Not to mention all the time/energy/training of all the people who created the training data over the past few centuries.
Frankly, at that point, any human artist is more “efficient” than AI - they’re able to master their field in mere decades.
I really don’t think he meant it that way. Think of it like this - if I want to generate some images, my GPU will run at 100% for few minutes. If I want to play cyberpunk, my GPU will run at 100% for hours.
I think if he meant it that way he would have said that, instead of talking about the energy that humans use and particularly talking about food.
It’s like he asked his chatbot to come up with this argument.
Somebody actually did the math, and even accounting for all the energy that it takes for a human to stay alive a pair of decades, it’s not even a hundredth of the energy needed to run the training of GPT-3. And GPT-4 took over fifty times that. Cf. fosstodon.org/@atoponce/116121…
RE: fosstodon.org/users/atoponce/s…oof! apply water to the burn- oh wait we don’t have any!
I really wish Sam Altman would treat himself with the dignity and efficiency he wants to treat us with.
The ideology of evil eugenicists didn’t die with Hitler, and they didn’t die with Epstein either.
He will probably claim to work a gazillion hours a week with an unrivaled efficiency, making him one of the most productive humans on Earth. Because these people are not just sociopaths, they’re also completely delusional about their intelligence and true worth, out of money worth.
You’re right. I forgot that AI people had that mindset. A dangerous thing to forget, because people like that will literally descend into an ideology that believes you can kill others if they inconvenience you.
Idk maybe we should do something about this man.
do it
I’ll get this one if you take Thiel
Silicon valley was a huge source of revenue for America… And when you have one industry, or a bunch of individuals making all the money - it risks authoritarianism capture of democracy.
That’s just capitalism working as intended.
Train him?
lmao best comment ever
Why? He’s doing his best to show how absurd our current system is.
I wonder why nobody has Mangione’d those filthy millionaires yet.
I have no idea why people keep using an innocent man’s name to talk about murdering people.
Well, they’re trying to kill him (Luigi), so that’s a valid interpretation.
He didn’t do anything, so saying that you Mangione someone it means you don’t do anything with him =]
Any of those man-eating predators still around?
they do, especially the billionaire ones
Now I’m hungry
The worst of it is how human existance makes electricity and RAM more expensive for AI. Hard reality check soon.
Maybe we could use altman to fuel the ai? As charcoal?
Not that efficient since most of him is just water.
Well maybe we need to compensate for the inefficiency by including all his CEO and Billionaire buddies as well.
Applebottom jeans and the boots with fir. Robot raises arm and all the servos go whirr.
The proper response to dystopian prophecies is not “challenge accepted”!
wait, are you telling me my dream of building those mega-housing blocs in cp2077 misguided?
How about he replace his role with an llm?
he’s full of shit.
wouldn’t let that nerd fix a paper jam. visionary hallucinations. by that logic we should all die so ai might live cheaper. amen
