• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    When was Iran tolerable? They’re still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they’ve been since the revolution.

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      8 days ago

      I recall seeing a lot of posts on here praising the leadership whenever they said anything negative about Trump

      But that’s about the only stuff positive about Iran I’ve seen on here.

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      I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they’re scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is…

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        I’m not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel’s unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.

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          Basically nothing for 2 years (the protests ended), and the first term for Trump ended in 2021, so 4 years ago. The only thing I have seen is about arms sales, occasionally and it doesn’t express any opinion other than an Iran drone was used.

          In the last few days since the attack, it’s quite a lot about nuclear weapons that may be 2 months, 2 years or a 20 years away, and now about journalists. Basically, the strategy has changed to bumping them up the enemies list to justify the attacks.

          We don’t see much about the Syrian leader, as he’s not much of a terrorist now he’s working with the West.

          It’s interesting how media can pivot their narratives about who the heroes and villains are at any time, and it’s always in line with government foreign policy.

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      8 days ago

      Welp, you convinced me, I now support killing as many Iranians, men women and children, as it takes to save Iranians from the yoke of the Islamic Republic. /s

      Waging war on Iran will not improve the situation of any Iranian, even the worst off. Do not use the name of the people who will be slaughtered by the millions for your warmongering propaganda.

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        Not sure how you got any of that from what I was saying. Feel free to take your black and white worldview somewhere else.

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          Oh, I just assumed that your parroting of the mainstream media justifications of this war of aggression to be an assent of this war. Sorry, my bad.

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      7 days ago

      And they’re less terrible than any country that is supporting Israel’s Holocaust in Gaza.

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        Israel is terrible, but Iran is one of the few countries in the world that tops them.

        • They funded, supported, and armed Hezbollah in Lebanon hat has helped turn the country into a failed state

        • They funded, supported, and armed the Houthis in Yemen that helped turn the country into a failed state

        • They funded, supported, and armed Zaynabiyoun Brigade and Fatemiyoun DivisionIraq in Syria which helped make Syria’s civil war so much worse

        • They funded, supported, and armed Kataib Hezb Allah, Harakat Hezb Allah al Nujaba, Badr organization, Kataib Sayyad al Shuhada, and Asaib Ahl al Haq in Iraq which turned the country into a failed state

        • They directly helped create the conditions that led to the rise of ISIS in both Iraq and Syria

        • They are openly arming and supporting Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

        • They support and fund Saraya al Ashtar and Saraya al Mukhtar in Bahrain to help destabilize the country

        • They fund, support, and arm the Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Palestine to keep the country radical and violent against Israel (funny how Israel and Iran have the same goals here)

        • They supported the brutal Al Assad regime in Syria and helped keep him in power

        • They supported and funded Hezbollah al Hejaz in Saudi Arabia to try and destabilize the country

        • They literally have an entire branch in their military that’s specifically created for the purpose of arming proxy groups to destabilize the region (Quds force)

        • They have been oppressing and killing their own people to such a comical degree that they even make other authoritarian countries uncomfortable

        They Idk what planet people on this site live on, but Iran is not a force for good in any capacity. The people who support them are either evil, ignorant, or both.