Tehran “is the principal source of regional instability and terror,” declare G7 leaders in a joint statement.

The leaders of the G7 countries on Monday issued a joint statement saying Iran should not have nuclear weapons and affirming Israel’s right to defend itself.

“Iran is the principal source of regional instability and terror. We have been consistently clear that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon,” declared the statement, issued by the leaders of the U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada and Japan, along with the EU.

They pledged to “remain vigilant to the implications for international energy markets and stand ready to coordinate, including with like-minded partners, to safeguard market stability.”

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    Ukraine gave up their nukes, look what happened to them. Libya gave their nuclear weapons program up, and look at them today. North Korea didn’t, and they’re still standing, for better or for worse. Iraq was accused of having nukes, but didn’t have them, and got destroyed. Seems that if you want any semblance of sovereignty outside of NATO, you better have some nukes.

    So for any nations reading along I’ll summarize the basic conclusions:

    1. Get nukes
    2. If you have nukes, do not give them up
    3. If you’re accused of having nukes, drop everything and get nukes asap

    Do you think Israel would be bombing Iran if they had nukes?

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    Israel is the principal source of regional instability and terror and everyone and his dog knows this.

    The kowtowing to Trump and his Zionist sponsors by the client states of the US Empire is an insult to objective reality.

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      Seriously. We’re supposed to regard Iran as an existential threat that is worth any price to neutralize. Okay, boomers.

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        …and it’s supposed to be a secret because God forbid having to comply with international treaties on nukes. Well it’s not like they respect international law anyway right? But the ones on nukes they just bypass and no one bats an eye

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    I believe ALL of the following;

    • Iran should not have nuclear weapons
    • Israel should not have nuclear weapons
    • Iran should not weaponize Palestinian suffering or coax them into attacking Israel while Iran itself sees little repercussions
    • Israel should not genocide
    • Israel has committed genocide and should pay a hefty price
    • Neither Iran nor Israel will really answer for their fuckery
    • Palestinians will remain fucked…if they survive.

    My heart breaks for the Palestinian people who suffer and die for others’ greed, ambition, and political squabbles.

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      Exactly. This is not a competition, we don’t have to cheer for either side. Horrible things are happening

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      This is the nature of modern day proxy conflicts. Both actors can continue easily but the “battlefield” like Gaza and South Lebanon are the ones that lose.

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      I agree with all of your past tense takes. The future remains to be determined. We might all be flattened at this rate.

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      Well that’s a nice enough list in a vacuum, but what does that actually mean she the real world? Israel already has nukes, Iran won’t survive without them, Palestinians are going to fight back against the fascists trying to exterminate them - with or without Irans prompting - and sympathetic countries like Iran are going to try and aid that struggle.

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      I’d add:

      • Hamas needs to deleted from the face of earth

      And all that basically describes the opinion of 90% of the population just that vocal minorities are very vocal.

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        90 percent of the western population. The rest of the world is more sympathetic to the militant struggle against imperial genocide.

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    Israel is the criminal and everyone knows it.

    Israel will face the long-term consequences of its reckless behavior. Just not today.

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    Well Pakistan will give them one if needed so they kind of already have one. Maybe stop pushing them to use it on Israel.

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    “We will do anything to maintain the status quo, up to and including genocidal ethnosupremacy”!

    I am honestly so revolted.

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      I’m curious to see what Iran would have become in the next 5 years had this shit not occurred. It had the potential of becoming another regime or possibly a democracy again. Hard to say where it was going.

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      Well, that’s been the litemotiv of the last century on the area, support a slightly less evil genocidal asshole against another genocidal asshole.

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      Yeah but until countries like the US, Russia, China and the rest give them up, they are the only true guarantee of sovereignty.

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    China, India, and Pakistan once again proving that having nukes does actually matter because you can’t be arbitrarily shoved around around by the only other nuclear powers.

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    “Iran is two weeks away from nuclear capability” - Netanyahu: 2012, 2015, 2018, 2023, 2025

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    Whatever.

    Don’t care if yanks go get blown up in the Middle East. It’s all in service of enriching Halliburton and the military industrial complex. Yawn. It is 2003 again?

    Whatever happened to: “tRuMp iS tHe PeAcE pReSIdEnT”.

    I thought the US was trillions in debt. There’s always money for war.

    Can’t wait to laugh at this smoothbrained crew of assclowns as they try to fight a foreign war. Good luck maintaining those supply chains for US war mongering when the whole world fucking hates you.

    FFS. Anyway. Next.

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      Don’t care if yanks go get blown up in the Middle East. It’s all in service of enriching Halliburton and the military industrial complex. Yawn. It is 2003 again?

      The last time they did this, a million Iraqis died.

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        I know. Fuck the US. They can’t even come up with different propaganda.

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    Religious zealots can’t be allowed to have nukes. You have to at least masquerade as a well-adjusted nation while you develop the nukes and slowly massage your zealots into positions of power over a few decades. Those are the rules.

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    Probably best for all of us if nobody can ever have nuclear weapons, but what do i know…

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    Why? If the West will allow Israel to live stream a genocide and both political parties in the US stick their fingers in their ears and make sounds like children, Iran has no choice but to pursue a nuke to defend itself.

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      I would have worded this differently, but you’re right in that it’s probably a good idea not to give anyone an extra excuse.

      “Oh but we had to” isn’t a great excuse, but it is one, and if you take away the threat, it takes it away that argument.

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      Literally nobody would care to mess with Iran if they hadn’t been funding radical militias all over the middle east.

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        “Radical militias” you mean groups that opposed Zionist colonialsm. If Israel didn’t exist these militias wouldn’t either.

        This is Western imperial propaganda to obfuscate the fundamentally anti colonial nature of Hamas and Hezbollah by labelling them as Islamic terrorists.

        The real islamic extremists like Al Qaeda and ISIS were in fact sponsored by the CIA.