So Israel and the US attacked Iran. Iran then fired back, the UK now is dogpiling Iran because they are firing back?
“Don’t defend yourself! Just lie back and let it happen.”
And consider the source of this type of messaging.
Not everything is defending yourself. Revenge killing civilians doesn’t suddenly become ok because your civilians died. Military bases are fair game, but it seems more than that is happening…
Revenge killing civilians doesn’t suddenly become ok because your civilians died.
I think a lot of people missed this memo over the last few years or even became absolutely unhinged when it has been pointed out.
I think a lot of people straight disagree, sadly.
uk crawled all the way inside trumps diaper quite a while back, did you not notice that ?
That is a disgusting image. As an Anglophile I am sad as fuck at the state of England.
Keir Starmer has demanded that the Iranian regime ends retaliatory strikes on neighbours in the Middle East in response to a pre-emptive attack by the US and Israel
nigga what
I think he’s talking about strikes on Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and UAE.
UK condemned the US/Israeli strikes on Iran.
The strikes are on American bases used to attack Iran, they aren’t on the gulf countries themselves, no matter how you or the leaders try to twist it.
The only danger to civilians has come directly from falling debris from not letting the missiles hit their intended targets. The US/UK/gulf militaries are not defending civilians, they are protecting American bases.
Meanwhile Israel directly bombed an elementary school on a school day in Iran and killed over 50 children.
The UK should condemn Israel, not Iran for defending itself after a surprise attack in the middle of peace talks, or “preemptive” as they like to call it.
Does that explain the civilian who died in Dubai?
The UK should condemn Israel
Pretty sure they already did
Does that explain the civilian who died in Dubai?
Yes, quite literally. No civilians were targeted in the gulf, only American military.
"The UAE defense ministry said most of the missiles and drones were intercepted but at Abu Dhabi’s Zayed International Airport officials said at least one person was killed and seven wounded in an “incident.”
Earlier, falling debris killed a Pakistani civilian in Abu Dhabi, the United Arab Emirates’ capital, officials said."
https://share.google/yol7wqbBOR1j0OCBB
The only threat to civilians is the falling debris from intercepting the missiles. We are “collateral damage” they are happy to incur to install a US puppet in Iran, the priority is to defend the war machine.
Pretty sure they already did
This is the second time in this thread you go just assert a falsehood with your guess and are satisfied with that, anything to defend and justify the war.
No, they didn’t condemn Israel, they only condemned Iran in this war that was forced upon them. And worse, now Britain to let US use bases to strike Iran.
Congrats, continue pushing for the slaughter of Iranians while insisting you care about civilians.
Now I know why its called The Onion
The joke is the layers of sarcasm
“preemptive regime change strike” by itself is already making my head spin lol
What am I missing here? The UK is just saying to Iran don’t fire missiles at countries that haven’t been involved in firing missiles at you.
That’s sensible.
They’re attacking valid US military bases in said countries. Are you that oblivious or just running Zionist propaganda on purpose?
Yes, and how did the UK defend this bases that were hit?
Logic?
It’s not defence when you’re on the side that attacked, Starmer, you worm.
In what way are we on the US’s side?
By defending US military bases?
I’m pretty sure you haven’t read the article.
Israel/US attacked Iran. Iran responded by attacking Israel and US bases in the gulf used to attack Iran. UK is using their fighter jets to shoot down drones headed to US bases in the gulf. UK condemns Iran for attacking gulf.
You follow that?
Ok, so what other countries have Iran attacked that have no involvement. I love how you missed out this important fact to push your narrative.
None…
What countries do you think they attacked that have no involvement?
You’re incapable of answering a question. Sure sign of below bot intelligence.
I guess in a fucked up way it’s good to know the Brits and by association the Europeans are just as vile and evil as us. I mean, I know we all have the same capacity for good and evil, but EU smugness is rampant and unhelpful. They need a dose of reality too.
wtf are you saying? the EU hasn’t attacked anyone.
own your own shit.
They can’t. The responsibility must be distributed elsewhere.
Coming to the offense of your Israeli masters isn’t a show of force? I’m not making any excuses for the US it’s an evil empire, but so are the Brits and Europeans. I’m just tired of the holier-than-thou smugness from Europeans and Brits. You’re as vile and nasty as us.
what are you even talking about?! are you off your meds?! the UK is not in the EU!
Arbitrary lines drawn by like minds. The UK might not be officially in the EU anymore, but that doesn’t change the fact that you all share the same values and lifestyles as the US. Failed liberal democracies that gave all the power to the owner class that are now welding it to murder children and overthrow sovereign nations. Western civilization is a joke. You’re all patsies like us. No better, no worse.
ok so you don’t have a point and are just raging out. got it.
My point was that the UK and EU don’t have a leg to stand on when criticizing the genocidal US. You’re as guilty as we are. Just watch as the UK and EU put boots on the ground in defense of Israel.
the UK an the EU are not related things.
the EU has no army.
you’re upset and lashing out because the shame is too great.
no country are angels, but stay focused on what’s happening now. disparaging an entire continent because you’re sad isn’t going to change anything.
There isn’t even support for this in the US, and you think the EU will help after all the threats, insults and tariff bullying? We have a war in Ukraine where a friendly nation is defending against an aggressor, I don’t see any country willing to support this clusterfuck besides perhaps the UK
Whatever helps you sleep at night, bucko.
Not gonna lie. I was a bit pissed off at the world and lashed out at the UK and the EU. They don’t deserve it, at least not yet, but I have no doubt that y’all are cucked by us and that ain’t good. Many EU dudes are all about the fascism zeitgeist and that’s worrisome.
Cheers mate. I’m sorry for being a dick!
No apology needed. Have a pleasant Sunday.
Cringe.
I usually drink liquor anyways. Yeah, I don’t usually buy stout but I’m making corned beef and cabbage for my friends tomorrow and this was an extra.
Us and Israel attack Iran
Brits help out with some jets.
‘How can I make this about holier than thou Europe’
If you are housing US or Israel military you are part of the attack. It’s as simple as that.
If you’re a human, I blame your species for this.
- every non-human species
Every non-human species is speciesist!?
Sadly the whole of the EU is complicit then. We all depends on US protection.
Protection from who?! We were well on the way to normalizing things with Russia since the early 00s, and then the Burgers couped Ukraine and fucked with the pipeline. China has never shown any aggression, they’re the world’s manufacturers so business is good for them, and countries like Pakistan, India, Iran and NK have nothing to do with Europe geopolitically speaking.
So, again, who do you think Burgerland is “protecting” us from? Nah, man, we’re there with them as sidekicks when it’s time to murder and pillage, and we get the scraps (well, our aristocrats, mostly).
Then kick them out of your countries. Leave NATO.
Israeli military bombs another school (wtf is their hard on for schools in general. They either want to kill them or fiddle with them)
Trump (the biggest terrorist in the world at the minute) declares that he wants to take out the terrorists.
And the UK joins in. On their side.
Fuck off.
wtf is their hard on for schools in general
Zionists are cruel on purpose because their intention is to generate widespread hatred of Judaism in the region, to justify internally that “we’re only invading them because they’re antisemitic and dangerous to us”.
Provokation and emotional response.
In my mind that would be the main reason why. An sane population wouldn’t stand for their children to get killed and you do nothing. It forces your opponent into action and you can exploit that action.
With some infrastructure and certain targets a response can be delayed. Mass civilian/children casualties mean an immediate retaliation is in order or your population revolts to make one happen.
You see it in Palestine; people with nothing to lose become beligerant. You kill their kids they attack viciously. Much easier to attempt to justify fighting a “vicious rabbid opponent” than a defense less peaceful one. However, if they go the opposite end and attempt peace and calm, they are easy to mow down
Makes sense.
The actual act of what they did wouldn’t even register with them.
The imperial dog is out for its masters
WTF
As an American, I don’t think my government needs any help defending itself in its quest to create another smoldering husk of a middle eastern terror state that hates us more now than they did before we bombed them back to the stone ages.
Yup, this is seriously heading towards a World War.
That’s an insane claim. Nobody will help Iran? Iran has no real friends, not even Russia.
That’s not how the world works. You could’ve just said “the current non-Western-aligned regime is not valuable enough to salvage by other non-Western-aligned countries” or that “the cost-benefit analysis makes no sense”. Just saying.
Who fighting who?
@madmadbunny@lemmy.ca vs your mum
Yep, that indeed looks like we are heading towards a world war.
Thanks for clearing up the statement by MadMadBunny, and prove the stupidity of it. 🤣
Iran alone fighting multiple powers, that each are more powerful than Iran by themselves.
Does no one here realize that Iranians are happy the regime is being attacked? Yeah, I don’t trust Trump. But the IRGC has literally been importing in radicals from other countries to help them slaughter protesters.
“They will greet us as liberators.”
It doesn’t have to do with being liberators. It has to do with the fact the Ayatollah’s regime cannot be overthrown by the people themselves. This is what many Iranians have told me. They’ve tried many times. The IRGC is one of the most horrific regimes in the world.
LOL, ok Cheney. I’m sure this regime change was is different. All those other times we attacked “one of the most horrific regimes in the world” where the good people just needed a little boost to overthrow them it didn’t work out that way because… reasons. This time it’s going to quick an easy and we’ll definitely be the good guys!
Have you ever tried talking to Iranians?
Dude. I’m willing to tell a foreign power my governing regime is horrific and we’d welcome invasion right now. There were Venezuelans asking for invasion, Iraqis asking for invasion, Afghanis asking for invasion. Do you think all those other countries didn’t have both bad regimes and opposition who wanted them gone? How’d that work out for us?
Were you perchance born yesterday?
You should stop talking to diasporoid monarchist iranians, they are worms
The point is, maybe they will all just kill each other world wide. That’s a win for all honest people. /S
I’ll shed no tears for the end of Khomenei or the IRGC. I’ll shed endless tears for Iranian civilians. As I have since 2006, I hope the Iranian people can change the world.
Yeah. I don’t like intervention. I just was taught to always center their opinions before my own wants.
I wouldn’t have chosen any of this. I just hope that somehow this turns out well for them.
I feel like a lot of people misunderstood me.
Sounds like ICE and the US.
It’s really, really important for people to understand that Iranians wanting Khamenei gone is NOT the same thing as Iranians wanting the US and Israel to bomb their country.
We’ve killed over 600k people since Trump took office. Where’s our regime change huh?
https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hundreds-of-thousands-of-deaths/
So, Netanyahu and Trump are lighting the fuse and the UK and others have to help to clean up the mess those morons created.
Wtf?
Does the UK still consider the USA an ally?
Fuck me, this response genuinely makes me feel less safe in the UK. What the fuck does the orange paedophile have to do before this utter prick stops siding with him.
