• General_Effort@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    No surprise there.

    People seem to have forgotten that liberal democracy prevailed not through moral arguments or appeals to conscience. It prevailed because it was stronger in war and in peace. It makes more and better weapons when it has to, and enables its citizens a better life otherwise.

    Look how Hungary oppresses LGBT people. That costs a lot of money and eventually only means that members of that minority pay less taxes and contribute less to the economy.

    Look to the US. The poorest states in the nation are those that were committed to racial oppression. The US would be even richer without that frivolous waste of human potential. And not just the victims but everyone.

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      17 days ago

      The biggest problem is corruption. Things like racism or anti LGBT are used to blame minorities for the problems caused by that.

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      17 days ago

      If a story confirms your prejudices it’s important to look closely. Supposedly in Germany the companies reduced investments during socialist governments to make them look bad. I have no idea how to verify it but if Hungary is opposing the European structure this much, I would check for retaliations before feeling confirmed.

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        17 days ago

        Economics is hardly a prejudice. You’re not making a lot of sense, anyway.

        Surely pointing to China is a better way to make the point that liberal democracy is not the only road to riches. I simply want to encourage people to take a hard-nosed look at the tenets of liberal democracy. They are not a revealed truth. They prevailed for a reason.

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          17 days ago

          They prevailed for a reason.

          That could be manufactured by giving more funding to liberal democracies.

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              17 days ago

              Just like that? What makes you so sure? The reverse was true for the divided Germany. Both sides shifted resources there to make their system look good in comparison.

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            14 days ago

            Funding by who? God? Certainly not all the other democracies that just so happen to work well.

            But seriously, if a system works so well that it can support multiple countries with the resources of a single one, thats an even better argument.

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    17 days ago

    They keep quoting a report from Kyiv Insider, but I couldn’t find a link to it in the article, only links to other articles on their own site.

    Fun fact, when I attempted to copy “Kyiv Insider” from the economic times article, it turned out as “Do not copy this site’s content!”

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      17 days ago

      India times has a mixed reliability. But other sources like Le Monde 4th April, and other news outlets from Hungary, attest Hungarys Economic woes from an Eurostat report.

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    16 days ago

    Almost Like Fascist scumbags just want to pillage their countries for personal financial enrichment or something.

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    17 days ago

    At least the country was led by a “strong” man. The only thing strong about his is the belt keeping his fat stomach from spilling out of his goddamn suit.

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    17 days ago

    Well thanks to Orban they are focusing on the important matters like who has sex with who so they should get better soon

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    17 days ago

    Not buying it. There has been a lot of discussion on the Greek social media recently, with Eurostat stats and all, about how that honour actually goes to Greece and Bulgaria.