What is true patriotism?
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No it wasn’t…
America was “founded” because the people who got rich early from none forcement of smuggling didn’t want to just stand by while the English government started to finally collect on due taxes.
It’s fucking crazy people still believe the shit we learned in elementary school.
It was “new money” revolting against “old money” and they only won because the French royal family wouldn’t too piss off the English royal so much it cost them their heads.
I don’t disagree with anything you said, but they did at least built a Constitution for We the people as opposed to a new world monarchy.
It’s not completely evil and darkness nor completely rainbows and sunshine.
“We the people” originally meant land owning white males, they just didn’t have to write that part down.
They did, they just didn’t write it specifically in the foundational documents. It’s in their letters, Jefferson in particular. It’s in the Federalist Papers. It’s all over their literature.
They did a lot better than those who came before them, and we can do a lot better than they did.
I didn’t say “honorable revolt”…
But it doesn’t need to be honorable…
If that was a revolt then literally everything is a revolt, so why did you use a word that you believe to be meaningless and capitalize it like trump does?
Why is it my job to explain your interpretation of what I said?
True patriotism is similar to love for your parents.
You appreciate and acknowledge the traditions and culture of how they raised you. You understand that they aren’t perfect, and accept their shortcomings. You are proud to tell people that they are your parents, and share stories of what they have done for you. And you do what you can to protect them if they are in danger or need help.
And false patriotism is a lot like false love for your parents.
Reluctantly obeying your parents out of fear, is not love. Being lied to and manipulated by your parents to trick you into loving them, is not real love.
If you truly loved your parents, and they were making destructive choices, you wouldn’t stand by, say “I love them, so they must know best!” and watch them destroy themselves. You would take action to get them help and get them back on track.
One of my high school history teachers defined patriotism as questioning your government. “Is this right? Is this best for the majority? How will it help the People instead of the people in charge? etc.” I think that’s how I would define it now, too. Not blind support but unending questioning to ensure the country and government work for the people it is supposed to represent.
That’s how I define loyalty
A very specific revolt, not general revolt. There were lots of revolts happening. The native inhabitants were revolting against the white European settlers. The black slaves were revolting against the white European settlers. Hell, the poor working class white European settlers were revolting against the slave-owning white European settlers.
The USA was founded in the revolt of the rich white landowning slave-owning European settlers against the British monarchy because the rich white landowning slave-owning European settlers believed the crown was violating their rights to commit genocide against the natives, steal their land, and make super profits.
The people who won had no problem crushing slave revolts, indian revolts, and working class revolts. By sheer numbers, the USA was built more on crushing revolt than on revolt itself.
The USA was founded in tax cheating and white supremacy.
For clarity: one of “The Intolerable Acts” was that the first nations of North America owned their land, particualrly the Ohio River Valley and all lands east of it and had the right to it.
Another was the stamp act that would stamp out bank fraud that was extremely rampant across the elite of the colonies. Even many of the founding fathers made money with it.
The American war for independence is a pretty anemic “revolution”. Think about the material conditions of the average American before and after. Now compare that to revolutionary France, Haiti, or Russia.
It’s almost embarrassing to say your fighting for “freedom” when right next door, literal enslaved people were throwing Napoleon’s army into the sea with machetes.