Windows 12 could be another costly upgrade for supporters of Microsoft operating systems. A new report reveals that the AI-dominated OS will require AMD and Intel CPUs with a dedicated NPU. Possibly surfacing in late 2026, the follow-up to Windows 11 may also rely on subscriptions.
  • rockandsock@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    So they’re going to try to get everyone to buy new hardware when there is a shortage of ram and storage and they are ridiculously overpriced.

    The timing of this couldn’t be worse.

    Pass the popcorn.

  • dhtseany@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I still have clients refusing to buy Office 365 subscriptions and insist on sticking with their old copies of Office 2016. I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward. This OS is dead.

    • zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I hope one OEM finally buckles and starts selling laptops preconfigured to install and run older versions of Office and such in Wine.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I’d love to see how Microsoft is gonna convince those cheap fucks that this is the correct path forward

      I suspect we’re going to see some kind of sweeping compatibility issues in the next few years. Possibly a really ugly virus rips through the business community to scare people into switching.

    • linux_penguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It may not even be them being cheap, just that most people/organisations not directly tech-focused simply aren’t inclined to update software. Like wearing clothing until it starts to fall apart. That trend is another nail in the coffin

      • blackbeans@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        2 months ago

        To be honest offline Office 2016 is a solid product and the desktop software is still more snappy and capable then the online counterparts. If you don’t need collaboration and online integration there’s little reason to go subscription based. I can understand that small companies make that decision. After all it is just a tool and not a goal in itself.

  • krimson@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Good, keep killing your own OS and forcing people to alternatives.

    I love how short sighted they are.

    • ulterno@programming.devEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I love how short sighted they are.

      That might not be the case.

      Ever since Windows 8, MS seems to be shifting the bar for what users will keep using Windows each version. This should get all but the most compliant ones out of their system.

      Next, they might have multiple time bombs in the Linux ecosystem. xz might have just been a POC.

      So what we might have here:

      1. Keep all easily surveillable people on the system and tighten the leashes.
      2. Use the multi-point security compromisations all over the Linux ecosystem at opportune moments before they are caught, robbing the users of their systems in some shape or form.
        • I feel like they might have had to speed up their plans due to the reduced control they would have from RISC V proliferation.
      3. – a. Use the opportunities from step 2 to neutralise HVTs and do whatever they want from those who become powerless (jobless/moneyless).
    • reksas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      2 months ago

      the thing is, alternatives need to be able to cater also the tech illiterate. Otherwise we will have growing number of people that will just accept all this bullshit and eventually start to view more free systems with suspicion(after some propaganda from corporations), which might lead to pressure to limit/restrict those free systems in personal usage.

      We really need a distro that we can recommend to some grandma who can barely open their pc by themselves and which they can use easily and safely. Since most people use pc for mostly browsing and maybe printing,text editing, i think it shouldnt be too hard to make something that is easy to use since you can leave majority of functions off and mostly have to think of ease of use/automation.

      • Frenchgeek@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Windows is not a simple OS to use. The matter isn’t to make a distro simple enough for the tech-illiterate to use, but one familiar enough for their habits to still work. And given it took two years for my mother to understand the floppy icon on libreoffice save the same way as the one in Works 3.0, it’s not exactly a simple problem to solve.

        • coolfission@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Agree, Windows 11 is now harder to use now than Linux distro like Mint. Just to setup, you have to create a Microsoft account and if you want to skip that, then you have to put commands in powershell or use rufus to disable all that.

          And don’t get me started on forced restarts for updates, the abysmal S0 modern sleep implementation, and so many more. I have to use gpedit.msc just to fix these issues. I think the only reason why Windows still has such a high market is because of enterprise agreements and that it’s pre-installed on every PC laptop.

  • Vieric@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    If they do this, they are going to be laughed out of the room. But then they will announce end of life for Win11 and everyone will stop asking questions and move anyway because “Linux scary”.

    I hate reality.

    • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      2 months ago

      They’ll put an affordable dumb terminal on the market like those Google PCs.
      You’ll own nothing.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Same. Switched my personal machine to Mint instead of “upgrading” to 11. I have to use 11 for my work device, and it’s not hyperbole to say that it gets worse every single week.

          • Autisti4@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Yeah… my machine got so slow and with every update breaking something new I had to “downgrade” to win10 (I’m aiming for linux, but no luck :( so far, at least). Now everything magically works again

    • BigFig@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Didn’t they once allude to windows 10 being the last windows because no more revisions were necessary

      • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        No, media did say that at over point, but it was never based on any announcement from Microsoft.

          • dev_null@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 months ago

            You are in luck, I already explained this very article! Copy pasting my old comment below:

            Notice how even the article you linked doesn’t give a full quote? It just quotes someone saying “last version” without any context of the sentence it was used in? I will give you the full quote where that comes form. Someone asked a Microsoft developer what they are currently working on, and the answer was:

            ”Right now we’re releasing Windows 10, and because Windows 10 is the last version of Windows, we’re all still working on Windows 10.”

            It is obvious from context “last version” meant “latest version” here. And that misreading of a quote, conveniently not included in most articles, is the only source for all these news. No announcement. No journalist actually asking Microsoft about it. Just a fleeting comment by one Microsoft employee that obviously meant something else, in an answer about something else, but why let that get in the way of a good story.

            And this was an answer to an audience question in a "Tiles, Notifications, and Action Center” presentation by a single Microsoft employee, on a developer conference. The absolute last place to look for a ground-breaking announcement about Microsoft’s future.

            The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.

            And the exact same article you linked confirms Microsoft is still deciding on the name for the next Windows? Which would make no sense if there was no next Windows?

            “There will be no Windows 11,” warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner.

            There will be no Windows 11, says some guy who doesn’t work at Microsoft.

            And then a bunch of cherry picked quotes about continous updates and a service model being a good thing. Yep, continous updates, just like we got in Windows Vista, and that have nothing to do with there not being new Windows versions.

            Modern journalism is useless. Someone made up a thing, everyone else copied it. And not a single media outlet actually asked Microsoft about it. No one. Or maybe they did, but the answer meant there is no news, so let’s ignore it.

  • brsrklf@jlai.luEnglish
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    2 months ago

    One of my 2 PCs already switched to linux because of mandatory TPM 2.0 for windows.

    It’s like they want us to leave their ecosystem. Requiring hardware changes in the middle of a major component crisis, one that they are in no small part responsible for, is certainly a choice.

    • DarkSpectrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      when one understands the unified and singular nature of existence, its easier to see how the greed driving the actions of those in power is also the necessary call for others to respond. with the call getting louder and more extreme, many are waking up to the truth of their reality. anyone hoping life will go back to normal will not survive the transformation, only those who embrace change as a necessary growth opportunity to overcome darker elements of our collective culture and experience. for example, we all understand the sickness if an individual pedo, but we have yet to fully expose and understand the breadth of the affliction. It will continue to reveal itself like an infected wound that can no longer be ignored and must be treated. so yes, they do want us to leave their platform only they don’t know it and they will only inspire a better one to be built with a purpose beyond individual gain. The enshitification is a blessing.