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      a guy getting his ass kicked

      The Americans and Israelis have massacred an extraordinarily large number of people, demolished billions in critical infrastructure, and plunged the country into a bleak future of warlordism, poverty, and famine.

      It cannot be adequately expressed how nightmarish life will become in Iran in the next few months, without a globally organized relief campaign.

      What they’ve accomplished militarily is impressive, but it hasn’t come anywhere close to breaking the genocidal grip of the imperialist powers around their collective throats.

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        Military force kills people and breaks things. The US military is incredibly good at this. Wielding the power of destruction in a manner that produces positive outcomes is the job of politicians, and the Executive Branch happens to be incredibly bad at this.

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            Yes, they could destroy the oligarchs and kleptocrats draining this planet of its life.

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              The only bombing that actually led to results was the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And only because if was so devastating, on a scale of cruelty never seen before.

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                  I’d argue that it did less than what Russia did in WWII: invade with overwhelming superiority in men

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                    That’s irrelevant to this point. I asked you a yes / no question. You’re free to concede the point if you don’t want to answer.

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                    The Russian march across Eastern Europe involved much more than raw manpower. Soviet Tanks were a force to be reconned with. Their use of artillery was inspired. Georgy Zhukov was a genius field marshal and outmaneuvered the fascist armies both retreating and advancing. He did not just win on numbers.

                    That said, you’ll find quite a few Cold Warriors who took the view - after the dust had settled - that Europe would have been far better united under a German military dictatorship than bifricated between NATO and the Soviet Union.

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                So the war itself, absent the bombings had no power of destruction, killed no one?

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                    As a German: Hell yes! The Nazis needed putting down and that entire worldview got a thrashing that lastet us a good 70 years before Germany is on the verge of falling to the fash again.

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      Talking awfully big for a man threatening a country with arguably one of the best infiltrations of the US intelligence network since the USSR. I’m unsure how true it is since the Cold War, but time was when you couldn’t go take a shit in the Pentagon without Castro knowing about it.

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        Only a couple a years ago the US ambassador to Bolivia was arrested for being a Cuban spy. I’m sure they’re still punching above their intelligence agency still punches above their weight. I’d be curious to know how they can actually leverage that strength if Trump really decides to go after Cuba.