Anyone disappointed should just boycott everything coming from the USA, from companies owned by the USA (PE, stock market, etc).
Start with easy stuff. Like benzin/diesel for your car. Don’t go to esso or jet. Then, stop drinking Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc. or going to the McDonald’s. Boycott Tesla, Ford & Co.
Cancel your Netflix and Amazon prime, and buy CDs, DVDs and blue rays.
Stop buying iPhones. Move away from Microsoft and Google as much as possible. In your private life and your companies. Go open source.
Trade wars are a problem only for the seller if there are no buyers.
For one: ownership. Nobody can take away your DVDs legally.
Second: you can buy 2nd hand. Only the (local) reseller makes money.
Third: you can buy local content…
Fourth: no recurring sales for Netflix & co. And this is huge. Because they use their ARR to get financing, Netflix & co need you to pay monthly. Buying DVDs is much less predictable and does not give them the same financial power.
Fifth: you can lend them. Want to share a movie with friends? They didn’t need their own subscription. You can just lend them the DVD. Again: less sales.
Finally: once you start going this, your discover your local ecosystem. Libraries, associations, forums etc. With doing like this for culture (Books, music, movies), tools, and even expertise.
Buy it second hand. They can have their initial sale a decade ago and no residual income. I’ll buy it from you when you don’t want it or need some cash! Better burn a backup as well before it gets scratched. Don’t accidentally lose twenty backups at your friends houses though.
Anyone disappointed should just boycott everything coming from the USA
This is the lazy and ultimately wrong way. Sure, it doesn’t hurt, but its actual effect is not very powerful.
The better way to get back at USA is to start doing things better than they do. Stop fucking around and do stuff. We might be there in some limited areas, but in general the US rules over the world economically because they’re good at making things.
This is the lazy and ultimately wrong way. Sure, it doesn’t hurt, but its actual effect is not very powerful.
If consumer boycotts wouldn’t be powerful, why did the US pass anti-boycott bills? Why is there so much lobbying against consumer boycotts?
Also the US isn’t good at making things. If they were, they would have a positive trade balance with most countries. Instead they have a negative balance and a lot of their exports are crude resources and other low-level refined products from them.
Also the US isn’t good at making things. If they were, they would have a positive trade balance with most countries. Instead they have a negative balance and a lot of their exports are crude resources and other low-level refined products from them.
Yeah, perhaps I’m being a bit myopic here because I’m in IT. And it seems to me that in my field almost everything is either made in USA or significantly funded by them.
Do they? Most founders located in the USA are either heirs of Fortunes or foreigners.
They’re especially good at:
Financing: they have been printing money line there’s no tomorrow and pumped their stock market
Marketing: many of us here aren’t native English speakers and yet, we communicate in English. This puts native speaker at an advantage
So no. They don’t do so much better things. They are just reckless their own people for the sake of the economy.
And yes. Not buying from them, especially for things that are commodities (benzin, diesel) or bad for your health (soda, junk food) is actually hurting them.
Would be interesting to know if your attitude is a typical attitude in Europe. I would sell all my european funds and buy american ones to replace them if it is.
Anyone disappointed should just boycott everything coming from the USA, from companies owned by the USA (PE, stock market, etc).
Start with easy stuff. Like benzin/diesel for your car. Don’t go to esso or jet. Then, stop drinking Coca-Cola, Pepsi, etc. or going to the McDonald’s. Boycott Tesla, Ford & Co.
Cancel your Netflix and Amazon prime, and buy CDs, DVDs and blue rays.
Stop buying iPhones. Move away from Microsoft and Google as much as possible. In your private life and your companies. Go open source.
Trade wars are a problem only for the seller if there are no buyers.
Or just pirate your media…
To paraphrase Jeff Winger:
How is buying DVDs and blurays better than Netflix subscription, if they are American content?
For one: ownership. Nobody can take away your DVDs legally.
Second: you can buy 2nd hand. Only the (local) reseller makes money.
Third: you can buy local content…
Fourth: no recurring sales for Netflix & co. And this is huge. Because they use their ARR to get financing, Netflix & co need you to pay monthly. Buying DVDs is much less predictable and does not give them the same financial power.
Fifth: you can lend them. Want to share a movie with friends? They didn’t need their own subscription. You can just lend them the DVD. Again: less sales.
Finally: once you start going this, your discover your local ecosystem. Libraries, associations, forums etc. With doing like this for culture (Books, music, movies), tools, and even expertise.
Buy it second hand. They can have their initial sale a decade ago and no residual income. I’ll buy it from you when you don’t want it or need some cash! Better burn a backup as well before it gets scratched. Don’t accidentally lose twenty backups at your friends houses though.
Been doing all that for over a decade…
Terrific! Congrats!
This is the lazy and ultimately wrong way. Sure, it doesn’t hurt, but its actual effect is not very powerful.
The better way to get back at USA is to start doing things better than they do. Stop fucking around and do stuff. We might be there in some limited areas, but in general the US rules over the world economically because they’re good at making things.
If consumer boycotts wouldn’t be powerful, why did the US pass anti-boycott bills? Why is there so much lobbying against consumer boycotts?
Also the US isn’t good at making things. If they were, they would have a positive trade balance with most countries. Instead they have a negative balance and a lot of their exports are crude resources and other low-level refined products from them.
Yeah, perhaps I’m being a bit myopic here because I’m in IT. And it seems to me that in my field almost everything is either made in USA or significantly funded by them.
Do they? Most founders located in the USA are either heirs of Fortunes or foreigners.
They’re especially good at:
Financing: they have been printing money line there’s no tomorrow and pumped their stock market
Marketing: many of us here aren’t native English speakers and yet, we communicate in English. This puts native speaker at an advantage
So no. They don’t do so much better things. They are just reckless their own people for the sake of the economy.
And yes. Not buying from them, especially for things that are commodities (benzin, diesel) or bad for your health (soda, junk food) is actually hurting them.
Would be interesting to know if your attitude is a typical attitude in Europe. I would sell all my european funds and buy american ones to replace them if it is.
Yes. We’re all like this. Go ahead 😉
Typical European here: yes, we are.
So just to clarify: Do you think that boycotting USA is more important than being better than USA?
Define better.
In this context: Doing better stuff better than they do.
Not only you use the word you need to define on the definition, but you use it twice.
We do better stuff better than US. They do some stuff better than us. Some third parties do better than either.
What’s your point?
You’re not wrong but you’re wrong when you say “ultimately wrong”.
More than one thing can help here.
And your counter-proposal to “stop fucking around and do stuff” is not so hot.
Better advice: contact your MP’s right now because this hasn’t been ratified yet.
edit:
oof. 🤪 Even in the glorified 1950s neither part of this statement has been (generally) true.