• OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    Remember in 2012 how everyone was horrified when an authoritarian government like China forced everyone to disclose their identities to get online so they could track and censor them?

    Now the authoritarians are here.

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      The joke of the China comparison was that we had a bunch of libertarians screaming “We can’t have social services! The government will weaponize them against us and track everything we say and do!!! Public healthcare, public transit, public education, public utilities - they’re all a slippery slope to the Police State, just like in China!

      And now we get all the same mass surveillance via privatized channels, while libertarians seem to have fully clammed up (when they aren’t quietly cheering on psychopaths like RFK Jr). But we get none of the public amenities. Yay… love my Freedom™

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      Nah no problems here. Move along but before you do please leave a copy of your government id.

  • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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    Sounds like it’s time for those subreddits to find new homes on non-UK instances of Lemmy.

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      All kinds of governments are rushing to implement something similar. The Fediverse solves some problems, but not the problem of a site being hosted in a single geographical location (and thus a single government’s jurisdiction). To help with this there are tools like i2p that can obscure a site’s hosting location, and there’s also work on distributed web hosting, but the latter still seems to be in its early stages. One day maybe we’ll have distributed websites that can be resilient against censorship.

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        Whaddaya mean? A non-UK instance doesn’t have to comply with UK law if it doesn’t operate as an entity in the UK and so it won’t require the face ID for UK visitors. So long as the instance is okay with hosting this content, it would let UK visitors view it. For example, I don’t think the UK has authority or mechanism to ask a Brazil-based instance to do this.

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            Sure but that means they have to have a mechanism, legal and material to execute this. There must be an gov’t institution that looks for and designates sites to be blocked. Then they have to have legal power to compel UK ISPs to block those lists. Are these things part of this law? I haven’t read enough.

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              As I understand it if a site doesn’t comply and fineing them isn’t an option Ofcom can apply for a court order to, indeed, compell ISPs to block them.

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                Okay. Yeah that makes sense and in that case hosting on the Fediverse out of the UK would probably unblock it for a long time. If the blocking is not trivial - like one person adding a URL to a list - then they’d have to prioritize and they’d likely be going over bigger fish like international porn sites and such for a long time before they reach communities on the Fediverse that may or may not be self-designated NSFW. If they’re on Reddit on the other hand, they get voluntarily blocked by the platform itself in the UK almost certainly without direction from Ofcom.

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    If the kids can’t see the horrors of war [crimes], they’re more likely to be convinced of being participants.

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    It’s crazy that we have website that are just outlets for war gore to begin with. The “solution” to the social rot that is monetization of war pornography appears to be adding a bunch of faces to a big database marked “Adult”, I guess?

    Who does this even benefit, other than data warehousing and aggregation companies?

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      I wouldn’t call it outlets for war gore. It is also about providing information that mainstream media refuses to give or intentionally distort to fit its narrative.

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      Reddit blocks you plain and simple if you use a vpn, and has done so for a while. Also I don’t see how VPN relates to them gatekeeping 2 subs behind a mandatory doxxing of yourself.

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        Reddit blocks you plain and simple if you use a vpn

        Not really true. Some VPN IPs are blocked, so you’d have to select a new VPN endpoint and try again.

        Source: have done this multiple times when switching VPN endpoints.

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          Huh, just went and managed to get the frontpage after 5 tries with mullvad. To be fair haven’t really tried too hard to go back on Reddit the last two years, and just assumed the blocking of IPs was stricker. Still, thanks for correcting me

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        Just visited with my personal VPN, which I’d advocate anyone with technical chops to spin up. Digital Ocean droplet, been in use for years with zero maintenance, $6/mo., and no one gets my logs.