Thanks Christians, you can shove that bible right up your collective asses.
Well 10 commandments are part of Deuteronomy, older than christian religion, and the book was nitpicked by those who institutionalized Christianity.
Even before then. They’re originally listed in Exodus. Fun fact, after the tablet smashing incident when Moses goes back up the mountain to get a new set carved in Exodus 32, several of those listed by god in the process of creating the replacements are different from the first ten. Depending on where you split the clauses, there are as many as 18 commandments between the first and the second sets.
Deuteronomy is a recap, including only the first ten, but also manages get the explanation for the sabbath wrong as compared to previous chapters. Then it goes on to claim “these are the ten commandments and god added no more” which as we just saw is an untruth.
Even in Ye Olde Testament Times, an effort was afoot to deliberately mutate the terms and conditions in order to suit the current authority.
“Ye Olde Testament”?
Its not ‘ye’, its ‘þe’, the thorn character, pronounced today as it always was, ‘the’
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)
So educate yourself, and please drop all that ‘ye’ shit, all articles that reference ye are incorrect. ‘ye’ is a mistranslation itself.
Ight CM, take my upvote and go smoke a joint.
I was obviously being deliberately facetious. Relax.
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You think the bible was written in English…?
Depending on where you split the clauses, there are as many as 18 commandments
And here I thought it was fifteen.
Forgot about that. I usually focus on Deuteronomy as it is really, very “fun”
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You know why? When the Bible was written, crimes against children were considered property crimes against their father. Thou shalt not steal, and thou shalt not covet, both indirectly protect kids about as much as they’re intended to. Which isn’t much.
Interesting perspective. But yeah it seems like they danced all around the subject altogether.
Just as they don’t mention animal abuse, those morals don’t keep people in line.
Indeed, and really there ought to be a few more commandments, such as:
‘Thou shalt not abuse earthly environmental resources beyond necessity’
Or something like that anyways. Really, if there’s only 10 commandments, they should be simplified and boiled down to only a couple or few commandments or so that encapsulate them all, as the late George Carlin presented…
Here’s another one based on the general conversation here:
Thou shalt not exploit or abuse a vulnerable person or creature.
Open to some interpretation, of course. But concise enough to cover the brush strokes if those who are obsessed with the Ten Commandments were to really follow through on implementing them.
I’d replace ‘a vulnerable’ with simply ‘any’, to be more broad about it, almost nobody deserves abuse.
Well, except serial killers, cannibals, leaders that orchestrate genocide, etc. in the worst of the worst fields of evil people. I’m not God, I’ll turn a blind eye to giving them a dose of their own medicine…
The ten commandments are just part of the whole.
They do talk about animal abuse, along with slave prices, death penalty etc.
See Deuteronomy. Very fun read.
When the Bible was written is a very abstract concept covering a large timeframe
Interesting take, and not entirely wrong either imo. Though, I think the real reason is simply that such a commandment wasn’t necessary, because it was already implied from the very beginning. God gave Adam and Eve the mandate to care for his creation, and in conjunction with the fact that “Love the Lord your God” is the very first commandment (which means to follow his commandments), respecting the people that God created in his image would have absolutely unquestionable in the mind of the ancient Israelites.
The really hard to accept part is how this respect for what God made included the destruction of what is not of him, which included people. It’s a very alien concept to us today in our culture. The important part is that what you read in the Bible (esp. the Old Testament) cannot be taken at face value. Everything is seeped in historical context that often makes things seem at a glance to be the opposite of what they actually are. The translation from Hebrew and Greek compounds this problem.
TL;DR: If you want to take solace in confirmation bias, it’s not hard to do, and to blame you for doing so would be incredibly hypocritical of me. Remaining truly objective is the most grueling exercise in self-awareness and accepting uncomfortable possibilities anyone could ever undertake.
That’s why the Republicans want them in classrooms, instead of “love thy neighbour as thyself”. Because that would imply that racism is bad, and that’s something they do not want to hear.
The bible is cherry picked to hell. Christians that actually read their holy book can justify racism, as their deity explicitly advocates for slavery in the bible. Slaves are property and not neighbors in their holy book. The bible is trash, and people should be wiping their asses with it instead.
So, like many people, have completely not understood how this bible and Christianity thing works.
The ten commandments, together with the other laws of Exodus and Deuteronomy, are part of the old covenant. The key thing of Christianity is that Jesus set up a new covenant, replacing the old with the simple formula “love thy neighbor like thyself”. The old ten commandments (at least 4-10) can be seen as an interpretation of that new covenant. Many of the other laws of the Pentateuch, like the slavery laws, not so much.
People are still talking about the 10 Commandments? I thought George Carlin already put this matter to rest.
The higher ed institution I work for is installing them in every classroom per a state law. Smh
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I wouldn’t blame you or anyone really if people started printing out and installing a sticker paper banner under such displays that says something like…
“11 - Thou shalt protect the children at all times”
LOL, I did actually link that somewhere in the comments. 👍
But the first four are about how much of a sad loser god you are praying to.
Real quick Google, absolutely none of this information vetted so take it with a pinch of salt.
10 commandments written around 1300-1600 BCE. Average life expectancy 20-35 years.
You’re not an adult for very long before you snuff it, and if you wanna have kids you gotta start as early as possible.
Average “life expectancy” in the past is misleading because it is skewed by high rates of infant/child mortality. If you made it to past your first few years, you stood a much better likelihood of reaching old age.
Average life expectancy and common life span doesn’t really correlate. As a simplified example, if half of babies die before their first year, and everyone else lives to 60, average life expectancy would be 30.
Life Expectancy ≠ Reproductive Years
Menopause is unfortunately a thing…
Sure but menopause doesn’t hit at 35 which is when the person I’m responding to thinks most people just died at.
Nothing about slavery in the 10 commandments either. In fact, the deity in the bible explicitly advocates for slavery. Read Leviticus 21. The deity talks about how to treat your slaves and beat them as long as they don’t die. Also, different rules for Hebrew slaves (the deitys people). Christians are sick mother fuckers that should abandon their holy book.
Oof, phuck.
At least they fed the slaves right? A starving slave isn’t going to be very productive are they?
Any wonder why over 400 TSA workers recently quit? No pay, can’t even buy groceries…
And ain’t it just cute, turnip gonna send in ICE agents…
Man its sad fucking times we live in right now :(
Neither in Judaism nor Christianity are the Ten Commandments the only religious rules that exist.
Technically there was mention about abusing children sexually as a sin, but they changed it to being gay is a sin. Saying the quiet part out loud.
Which commandment is that? Which number, cos neither of those is in any list of the 10 commandments ive ever seen.
Might I suggest 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture
Someone has been burned by Christians it seems
I’ll confirm that for you, particularly the Pentecostals.
They were neighbors of mine within spitting distance, and yet like 2 years before my father passed away, they were trying to talk with me behind his back to acquire his land.
A part of me wanted to burn their fucking house down over that, but I’m better than that. After daddy passed, they acquired the land that I was supposed to inherit (about 1 acre), and threw out all our stuff.
I only got like less than 5% of the stuff I hoped to retrieve. Fuck, they even sold my registered to me motorhome to local meth heads for scrap when I was out of town.
So yeah, to say I was burned by Christians says the least. But it’s water off my back, I seek no revenge, that would just make me worse than them.
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How is this the fault of all Christians?
I never said it was the fault of all Christians. Just the fault of Pentecostals and Mormans…
There sounds like there’s a lot missing here, and calling your father “Daddy” is weird.
Daddy refused the term ‘father’, as father is God, so I was forced to call him dad or daddy.
Yes there’s a bit missing here, I’d rather not go over all the abuse I went through.
Please go to therapy
they are probably covered by other biblical laws that apply to adults… like, if you rape one you just have to marry it because you can’t burden the father with damaged goods, unless it didn’t scream enough, then it shall be stoned to death.
It’s on the 5 that Moses dropped.
“Thou shalt not rape” just didn’t make it onto the top 10 list.
Did they even have a definition of ‘rape’ back in biblical times?
Sorry I’m not exactly a biblical expert, but I refuse to believe that Jesus’ mother Mary was a virgin, someone had to have fucked her over 2000 years ago.
Please mods don’t crucify me for this comment…
Rape is mentioned in Deuteronomy of course.
Or “Thou shalt not own slaves” Instead the bible deity explicitly advocated for it and allows you to beat their ass as long as they don’t die. Bible deity is a piece of shit!
Just because it’s not spelled out, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Critique made without a genuine effort to understand the cultural and historical context isn’t worth much.
Very first commandment (as summarized by Jesus) is “Love the Lord your God.” Combine that with the mandate to Adam and Eve to care for God’s creation, and the core tenant of Judaism that loving God implies obedience, and the concept of respecting that of his creation which bears his image becomes immediately obvious.
I don’t give a shit about cultural and historical significance, when today is what counts, and the leaders and oligarchs in charge that supposedly believe in Christian faith are actively committing genocide, bombing schools of children, and they’re entangled in a pedo ring…
If this is what the Bible is all about, ‘fOrgIVe mE faThER fOr i haVe sinNeD’ is all about, then fuckit, burn the bible and start a new belief system that actually makes sense and respects people in general, rather than abusing and killing them en masse and destroying the ‘holy land’.
What’s holy about the land anyways, ancient history, or the bomb craters today?
Sorry, Jesus ain’t coming back to save anyone, people need to put down their arms and go home to serve and protect their families. Jesus didn’t have a gun, and even if he did, he most likely wouldn’t have used it.
Fuckall with war in the name of the invisible man in the sky.
I don’t give a shit about cultural and historical significance
What’s holy about the land anyways?
So do you wanna know or not…?
One could say that’s what the New Testament is, and Jesus put a lot of focus on loving others. The two commandments, which the ten are built upon, is pretty comprehensive. But don’t worry, people will find a way to excuse bad behavior if they really want to do it. If it isn’t religion, it will be nationalism, race, culture, which direction the bill of your cap faces, or if the color of your socks match.
My cap always faces forward, as designed to be used, to block sunlight from the eyes. But wait, my socks are different lengths and one is lighter than the other?
Fuck, RUN!!!
The true heathens are the people with their cap on backwards, shading their eyes from the sun with their hands.
Oof, yeah you got a point there, I’ll never understand that.
The only time I tilt my cap is to follow and block the sunlight wherever I happen to be sitting. Backwards is never the answer.
