My “big” TV is a dumb 55" Toshiba I bought in 2012. It works just fine plugged into my computer to display VLC. I don’t need anything else. I don’t bother with Jellyfin anymore, because all I do is “acquire” the content, watch it immediately, and delete it. I don’t keep anything apart from a few old movies, because I don’t rewatch anything.
Tonight I’m watching the next episode of Survivors, a BBC series from 1975.
He strikes again
Sounds like the trash taking itself out, no? If I don’t want smart features in the first place, then I see this as an absolute win. Nobody should be connecting their TV the Internet in the first place. Always make sure to use things like android TV boxes, fire sticks ect… over using the built in “smart” features as those TVs will be phoning home all day and serving you ads the minute you connect it to the Internet lol
My family stayed at my house and “the TV wasn’t working,” because it doesn’t have network access and I use an Nvidia Shield instead, so they connected it to the Wi-Fi and ad overlays showed up in the menus! I’m still mad about it years later.
Luckily I dodged a bullet and it didn’t brick it or anything, and the ads went away when the internet access did. I just disconnected it from the network and manually banned the MAC address in case anyone else tries it again.
And then banned your family from using the remote.
the ads went away when the internet access did.
Then why are you mad?
For one thing the same ad could have gotten stuck on the TV menus forever.
Just build a media pc. Those media sticks have trackers and telemetry too.
I just wish there was a way to control the PC as easy as a tv remote. I would totally do this except my wife and kids just want to hit a button on the remote instead of fiddling with keyboard or a track pad or controller of some kind
My HTPC is running Bazzite and boots into Steam big picture mode. I watch media using Kodi and control everything using a Sofabatton remote.
This setup is almost as seemless as when I was using an Nvidia Shield and a Logitech Harmony remote.
The keyboard and controller are not needed, except for gaming.
The only negative I’ve found, is that I’ve not yet worked out a way to power on the PC from the remote.
Keep an eye out for the new Steam controller. It can interact via gyro, touchpad, and traditional controller input methods.
I believe Kodi supports IR remote controls.
FLIRC is your friend! It’s a USB IR receiver that you can train with literally any IR remote you have. Once you set it up (and it does take a little elbow grease to train it), it just works.
I use LibreELEC on a mini-PC for my home TV. LibreELEC is a Linux distribution that runs Kodi and is pretty good for a media centre straight out of the box. I use a Rii Mini K25 remote (with a dongle) to control it: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B06XHF7DNQ
The downside is I can’t control the TV itself with this, but this can be sorted out with a USB IR receiver (like this: https://amzn.asia/d/0hvzkP93), LIRC (https://lirc.org/) or something similar, *and a universal remote. On my to-do list lol
I have a DHCP reservation for the TV itself and it’s blackholed on my network. The only reason it’s connected at all is so I can monitor what it tries to do.
Edit: Also need a universal remote for the IR solution so it can talk to the PC IR receiver and the TV IR receiver separately.
I had this running on a raspberry pi, but it had constant crashing issues. I may give it another go with a mini pc
As soon as RAM isn’t more expensive than the TV.
Personally i’d rather pay more for equipment than have these assholes tracking my viewing habits. But you could throw ddr4 in it. Should be fine for a simple HTPC.
I don’t get the whole ram catagories. DDR3, DDR4, DDR5. They make it seem like the higher the number, the better the ram, but I always thought ram was just a space for computers to temporarily store information until it was ready to call on it.
So from my perspective 16GB DDR3 should be the same as 16GB DDR5. But that’s clearly not the case.
The biggest differences are speed and max amount of ram per module. For a htpc those shouldn’t matter much. I wouldn’t personally go to ddr3 unless I had some free sticks hanging out since the spec is about 20 years old now.
DDR3 is also pretty power hungry. Source: me, who built a homelab out of old DDR3 rackmount servers and can now no longer afford to run them.
So Vizio is a donmart brand? I wish they’d make up their minds.
Nearly every electronic device sold at Walmart is a unique SKU sold nowhere else.
They have their own internal logistics and manufacturing specialist team that works with manufacturers to hit specific wholesale price targets that they demand to even consider carrying their products in store. They reduce the number of ports, features, included accessories, quality of materials, etc. to get the that specific price.
The manufacturers take a huge hit on their own profits from these… but in theory will make up for that with sheer sales quantity.
Requiring a Walmart account probably means some sort of kickback to Vizio, or other wholesale arrangement. And since these devices are usually unique SKUs that can’t be sold elsewhere, they can receive differentiated software, have no risk of any sort of price matching, etc.
FWIW Vizio is a Walmart subsidiary now, they got bought out in late 2024
Did not know that. Definitely explains the integration now. Although the rest still applies to other brands.
Doesn’t Walmart already have onn?
You would have known that if you had read the article.
Probably, but even getting waterboarded would be a better use of my time than reading an article about Walmart accounts now being required on TVs.
And yet you’re commenting on it… ;)
Had some time before the waterboarding appointment.
Are Inout sources and volume smart features? Because I don’t need smart features
Its crazy how shitty they’ve gotten. I got one on black Friday probably 10 years ago and it didnt have and built in apps just casting from your phone. A few years later they updated it and suddenly it had apps and demanded you agree to their TOS and all that (possibly also download their Vizio app?). I didnt keep it for long after that (mostly because it was a budget ass TV with 4K but not HDR) and replaced it with an LG C3 AMOLED from Costco, which I couldn’t be happier with. In our bedroom we have a TCL and I think that’s where the sweet spot is with budget TVs
Main reason I want the steam machine to be a hit is just getting regular Linux boxes under people’s TVs and that getting developer interest. KDE Plasma Big Screen too. Good TV interfaces for media software. Respond well to remotes and gamepads. Popular service apps like Netflix and Crunchyroll. It’s jarring when I use other people’s TVs and the default page screen is just a wall of advertisements. At least Android based TVs I can install projectivity launcher to get a clean interface
Required to use smart features? Thank you Walmart for encouraging people not to connect their TVs to the internet!
I’m tempted to go back to htpc lol. The tracking is so bad these days. I need to block the mac of my tv (Google tv) and just do a tiny PC or something instead.
That’s still a great idea, the problem is good high definition high refresh rate panels without smart features are harder and harder to find
I agree, but you can completely ignore the smart tv features and just use your hdmi pretty instead.
But it’s not that easy a lot of TVs will only boot into the smart TV (and that’s already slow) and will only let you pick external inputs from there, often requiring to select it everytime!
Yup I get it, on mine I can customize my buttons. I have a one push button for Plex
My blueray player broke, and my tv stopped showing me to use certain apps and I can’t figure out why. But a used PS4 cost me $85 and solved all my problems. And they left a copy of Minecraft in it, so I even have a game to play.
You’d be better off buying a non-smart Samsung commercial TV from eBay and getting a $20 Onn 4K TV Box from Walmart. The latter can be Degoogled and sideloaded with Stremio, Cloudstream, or your streaming app of choice to make it the ultimate privacy-respecting media center.
side note . if you like stremio try nuvio . it works 10x better for me . looks like a fork.
You da freaking GOAT! Thank you for introducing me to this!
What sources are you using?
I have an extremely expensive smart TV that probably cost around £4,000 (I didn’t buy it so I don’t know what the actual price tag was) and it’s UI is awful because of stuff like this and it’s all stupid. It has an app, it’s a TV, I already have a method of controlling it why do I need an app?
As a result it’s purely a media streaming platform I don’t use any of its smart features. It’s just hoocked up to a mini PC and it’s just been a display.
I finally got fed up with it last year and blocked the internet access of my TV on the router level becuase upon contacting support I learned that there was no way to turn off the microphone setting. For real. They just didn’t add that feature in to my model. I still can’t believe that.
It is a little incovneient that I have to turn on my PC before I can watch anything but man the freedom of knowing that TV won’t be spying on me 24/7 is freeing.
Next time I buy I will be looking for commercial displays with HDMI and DisplayPort if its even possible by then.
This is why i don’t like “smart” tv.
so don’t make an account and it’s a normal tv?
