If corporations are people, then why can’t Facebook go to jail?
Money.
Facebook made 200 billion in revenue in 2025.
https://stockanalysis.com/stocks/meta/revenue/
They were fined $375 million. They averaged $550 million per day last year.
So the fine was basically paid by Lunchtime on January 1.
Yes. It’s probably concerning if they are continuously fined, but unless there’s a mechanism that ensures that, this is likely just annoying and not meaningful.
Just an itch to be scratched. Done. What’s for lunch?
If social media companies were required to moderate their content…if they were responsible for what’s posted…all problems would go away.
As it stands bad actors use bots to stay one step ahead of automated moderation.
Everyone here is cheering this on but the Fediverse is next. If a kid here offs themselves or gets trafficked, that’s all she wrote.
Seems like half the problem here is how Suckerberg has handled it, rather than what happened…or have I got that wrong?
How does the Fediverse do it better and would that appease the jury in a civil or criminal trial? Those are questions to consider. Perhaps it’s all good. I certainly hope so.
As a regular of the old-internet, including hellsites such as VampireFreaks dot com, I promise it takes more than that for the government to care. VF was the site of two? vampire-inspired teenage murderers and a few other horrors, including one of the admins defending the presence of a convicted pedophile who was banned from using Facebook.
As for why, my assumption is that you cannot fine an entity which is barely profitable. I mean you can but you won’t get anything, so they’re unlikely to bother.
I don’t think that will save it. I’m barely profitable and cops still give me tickets. Times are changing. Governments are coming down hard on the Internet. OSA in the UK forced Urban Dead to shut down. I would have to think admins running instances are feeling a little nervous.
UK is a very different story
For now. But the US is planning to pass it’s own version of OSA.
I doubt it. Nothing contrary to the interests of corporations ever happens in America.
I wish. If that were true, we wouldn’t have nasty-ass fire-safe cigarettes and they wouldn’t cost 15 bucks a pack. I could buy Macanudo cigars for a dollar. I could see Pornhub in Texas without having to sign up for an account. If they think it will protect the children, they’ll wipe Amazon clean off the map.
Yeah fair points on the cigarettes / cigars, I guess that was so long ago that I just take it for granted. Maybe social media will be the same… as for Pornhub, I think that is more about Christofascism than any actual concern for protecting children, and if social media is banned, it will be because TikTok especially (but social media in general) shattered the pro-Israel narrative promoted by the US government. They need to control the narrative, and the internet makes that hard. Free speech may make it too hard to take that away from adults, but they have an excuse if they make it about the safety of children.
Even with those good points on your end though, I’d still be surprised if anything actually happens to meaningfully restrict social media companies.
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly not how the fediverse works, unless you mean the admins of specific instances
I predict this will be tied up in appeals until the day SCOTUS or the executive sniff these suits out.
It says Google will already fight and him too, lmao and he says he wants to protect children but he won’t even admit fault with victims? Asshole. There’s literally a docu about it: Molly vs the machines.
And because of this instagram will also remove end-to-end encryption and add age-verification
The New Mexico case also raised concerns that allowing teens to use end-to-end encryption on Instagram chats — a privacy measure that blocks anyone other than sender and receiver from viewing a conversation — could make it harder for law enforcement to catch predators. Midway through trial, Meta said it would stop supporting end-to-end-encrypted messaging on Instagram later this year.
Regarding the encryption decision, a Meta spokesperson told CNN that, “very few people were opting in to end-to-end encrypted messaging in DMs, so we’re removing this option from Instagram in the coming months. Anyone who wants to keep messaging with end-to-end encryption can easily do that on WhatsApp.”
– https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/24/tech/meta-new-mexico-trial-jury-deliberation
In May, Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state’s claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents’ health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta to make changes to its platforms, including adding effective age verification and removing predators, it said Tuesday.
If you’re still using Meta spyware in 2026 and think you’re getting true E2E without a backdoor, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
How do they get the key? Isn’t that stored on me and my chatpartners literal phone? You can only get is by physically unlocking it? Show me proof or don’t say that
‘Show me proof meta is a bad actor or I’ll just take their word they aren’t’
I guess that’s an opinion to have…
truth lmao
Did you run gpg yourself to generate the key pair, then exchange pub keys with your chat partner? Or did Facebook generate the keys for you from within a closed source application?
if it has a backdoor it’s literally not end-to-end encryption at least, and they say it is so… idk so they are literally breaking the law and we can fine them again?
You’re misunderstanding what end-to-end encryption is. If they have a copy of your private key, it’s still end to end encrypted. The alternative would be akin to a TLS termination proxy, where your device would encrypt a message using Facebooks public key, they decrypt message, store it, and then Facebook uses your chat partners public key to encrypt and send to them. You cannot send an encrypted message straight through to your chat partner.
What I’m insinuating is that there’s no way to know if Facebook has a copy of your private key. The message is still end-to-end encrypted, it is encrypted by you using your chat partners public key, and passes through all of Facebooks infrastructure encrypted, until your chat partner receives and decrypts it. If Facebook stores the message, it’s stored encrypted. They can just decrypt it when subpoenaed or whenever they want bc they have the required private key.
Did you run gpg yourself to generate the key pair, then exchange pub keys with your chat partner? Or did Facebook generate the keys for you from within a closed source application?
Huh but WhatsApp’s server only stores public keys (to route messages). The server cannot decrypt the message because it lacks the private key which is stored locally on your phone? WhatsApp uses the Signal Protocol (developed by Signal Messenger), which is considered the gold standard for E2EE. This protocol ensures that keys are temporary and regularly refreshed.
Each user (and each device) has a unique key pair (public and private key). The recipient’s public key is used to encrypt messages. Only the recipient’s private key can decrypt them. The private keys (required to decrypt messages) remain locally on your device. WhatsApp’s servers do not have access to your private key. However, public keys (which are not sensitive) are stored on the server to route messages.
Only you and the recipient can read the messages. WhatsApp (and Meta/Facebook) cannot read the content of your messages if they are properly encrypted. This applies to text, images, videos, voice messages, and calls (including group chats).
Ooo mb you’re right yeah, also when you use backups I read… ok something to look into for myself to understand better fr, thanks for this comment btw
instagram will […] add age-verification
Judge Bryan Biedscheid is slated to hold a trial without a jury on the state’s claims that Meta created a public nuisance that harmed state residents’ health and safety. The state will ask Biedscheid to direct Meta
Listen, I cannot wait for the day that everyone stops using Meta products and Mark Zuckerberg is turned into longpork wagyu in his stolen-land Hawaiian bunker, but the latter statement does not seem to support the initial claim.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for any changes which will meaningfully impact the profitability of Meta.
meta is too useful for russian propaganda being peddled on facebook for conservatives/gop. they arnt going anywhere.
If we can keep getting these assholes in front of juries, maybe something will change.
So…it’s a fucking fine, which way less then he made by doing this. Until throw these fucks in jail this shit will continue.
Until throw these fucks in jail this shit will continue.
You think? Send Zuckerberg or any of these billioraires to jail.
1.They will use their lawyers army to be moved to a for-profit prison. 2.They will buy that prison. 3.They will make changes inside, turning them into a resort for them, but an absolute shithole for all other prisoners, guards, etc.
Or they won’t be able to do any of that with their assets seized and they’ll serve their time. No reason to make up some nonsense defeatist scenario.
I wasn’t serious. More of a satire about the absurdity of our “modern” world.
Until throw these fucks in jail this shit will continue.
Which is exactly why that won’t happen. Our president is a pedophile. There’s a whole network of wealthy pedophiles who no longer have an island. The pedophiles are in power.
who no longer have an island
*who now have a different island that we don’t yet know about.
antichrist mans bunker is in new zealand zucks in hawaii iirc
NO!!! NO NO NO NO NO!!! They can’t just Jurassic Park this thing, and just have an infinate amount of islands!
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You know there’s that jet tracker app?
It’s not hard to figure out where the pedos at.
Y’all are gonna end up with a Pizza Gate situation. We need real leaders who will hire and effective DOJ to investigate and charge the monsters in a timely but just manner. We need a new viable party.
The fine might just be the start
In the next phase of the legal proceedings, due to begin on 4 May, the attorney general’s office will seek additional financial penalties and court-mandated changes to Meta’s platforms that “offer stronger protections for children”, said Torrez.
The design feature changes the state is seeking include “enacting effective age verification, removing predators from the platform, and protecting minors from encrypted communications that shield bad actors”.
Unclear how age verification would play out with their Digital Childhood Alliance tricks.
I promise you whatever happens it won’t be good for the rest of us.
And that shit is why I’m hesitant to endorse these big tech lawsuits
Because you think they are conspiracies with goals to spy on you?
Spy on all of us, actually. And they’re openly nazis now
Because we KNOW they do.
The victims of child exploitation? Or the lawyers representing them? Or…? I’m not asking about vague general “save the children” stuff. I’m talking about this lawsuit and similar.
They just established legal precident of e2ee as “harmful to minors”
Not the person you were responding to, but IMO it’s the defense attorneys / legal department working to ensure that the legal outcome is as beneficial to the corporations as possible, even if they “lose”. In this case the fine is a cost of doing business, not nearly enough to actually discourage malfeasance and the legal/ PR pivot to blaming encryption rather than their algorithms is something they hope will tee them up to be able to do even more massive surveillance in the near future.
Fine based on % income of the company.
Lock em up
Do you leave out words on purpose? It’s one thing to misspell something but I just don’t understand how you managed to just not write one word in both of your sentences.
And just for clarity, those words are “is” and “we”.Strangely I find myself doing this occasionally as well (although, not as bad). I sometimes wonder if it’s cognitive damage from covid or perhaps the long term result of spell check / predictive word technologies. Either way it’s somewhat concerning.
It’s a fucking combination of pre text making changes and Lemmy removing words after I post. Not sure if its the app I use or Lemmy in general. I keep forgetting to recheck the text after I post.
Go figure, a company that exploits habits is found guilty of exploiting children…
“We respectfully disagree with the verdict and will appeal. We work hard to keep people safe on our platforms and are clear about the challenges of identifying and removing bad actors or harmful content,” said a Meta spokesperson. “We will continue to defend ourselves vigorously, and we remain confident in our record of protecting teens online.” Internal Meta documents and testimony obtained by the New Mexico department of justice during the litigation revealed that both company employees and external child safety experts repeatedly warned about risks and harmful conditions on Meta’s platforms. Evidence presented to the jury included details of the 2024 arrest of three men charged with sexually preying on children through Meta’s platforms, and attempting to meet up with them. This was part of a sting investigation operated by undercover agents and dubbed “Operation MetaPhile” by the attorney general’s office.
So they want us to believe that the company that knowingly profited from genocide in Myanmar also knowingly profited from child exploitation? Really? OK then, I can believe that.
to be fair, that’s the face that I’m making all the time
Yes, but you’re a nutsack. It’s fine when YOU make that face.
Are you suggesting that Mark isn’t also a nutsack?
No, nutsacks are fun to play with, and he very much isn’t.
Hemeroid at best.
The details of evasion tactics they used where even harder to read. How fucking irresponsible and outright fucked up do you have to be to OK this shit. Wow.
You’re telling me we shouldn’t have trusted a sentient Annabelle doll in a t-shirt and jeans?
Fine Zuckerfuck his entire net worth AND Meta. He’s poor now.
Now, let’s take a look at Musk, Bezos, and Ellison.
Enough fines, open a criminal investigation and throw his ass in prison.
Sure, AFTER taking his money. Let him call his relatives to beg to put money in his account.
Ellison doesn’t get enough hatred, thanks for reminding me 🫡
Which is too bad, because he is a legendary asshole who deserves as much disparagement and derision as possible. He’s an unrepentant MAGA Traitor and he’s captured about half of the media, including major news sources, which he is reconfiguring to be part of the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
It all needs to torn from his grasp, his companies broken up, and his business dealings deeply investigated. I have no doubt he’ll be in prison by the time it’s over, which is where he and his equally Sociopathic son belong.
Yep, he’s like rupert murdoch on steroids. And involved in smashing the white house for god knows what.
And a lot younger, and his son is even younger, and just as Sociopathic. So we’ll be dealing with these jackals for many years to come.
I mean, we don’t have to live like this
look, if the children didn’t want to become victims then why did they make themselves so sexy
– Meta defense (probably)
