Saw an old lady getting out of a BMW X7 M60i (the high performance version). I asked her what made her choose the M60i and she just said “I dunno, the salesman said it was the best one they had”.
That’s actually why the used market for BMWs is such trash. If you want a manual transmission good luck finding one because the original buyers are the people OP is talking about. People who actually know which cars are good tend to be poor people lol
Eh, downvote me, but manuals are overrated. Humans just can’t react as quickly anymore, especially with the power output now.
Now give me a gently used B58 or N63TU3 engine and I’ll be quite happy. Luckily these people that just “buy the best” don’t know what they have and just putt around town for a couple years.
Yeah they do 5 mile journeys which turns the oil into fuel, then they follow the BMW service interval of 20k which is about 4x too long for a performance engine.
Lots of ‘gentle use’ means the bottom end spent it’s whole life at minimum oil pressure, oil which was probably trash most the time.
It’s not the clueless pensioners fault, but man the industry sucks now
Yeah you need to change the oil in these cars every 5k. They are high performance turbo engines. I would never buy a BMW that just was returned from lease. Walking disaster
You also need to wind the engine out from time to time or carbon buildup. Rich people in these cars literally never floor it from what I see
You talking about the old Italian tune-up? I’m all about it. I drive a WRX, and the majority of my trips are with my kids to and from where we walk to school. Tiny trips. So I feel inclined to really get on her when I have my occasional trips elsewhere. It’d be wrong not to.
It’s also a manual, and I know it wasn’t you (or maybe it was), but I don’t drive manual because it’s the best performance option. I know that flappy paddle gearbox, to steal a line from Clarkson, is a faster, more accurate shift than I ever could do, but it’s just fun driving stick. I just feel more connected to the road driving stick.
I got this car new in October '24, and it’s my goal to keep it forever, because I’m not sure how long for the world stick is in general. Or ICE engines. And that’s okay, it’ll be a relic.
When I can’t buy a manual anymore I’ll just kill myself. Lol. They are just so immensely satisfying to operate.
Worse than automatics in 2026 though in every way except fun.
B58 will probably be my next car. My n55 has almost 200k on it and the problems are getting kind of frequent.
It’s not always about reaction speed or power. Manuals are just more fun.
Sorry but what do you mean you have to react quickly when manuals are overrated? What should you be able to do so fast in manual?
Agreed. Manual shifting is superior because you understand what you’re going to do and can plan the shift vs acceleration. An automatic can only respond to your attempts to accelerate. An automatic will prevent moments where you shift too early and lose accelerative ability, but driven accurately, a manual will be more effective. The fun mentioned in other comments is the process of mastering this balance. An automatic will (should) never approach the boundary of what the engine/transmission is capable of. With a manual, your destiny is in your hands.
How dare they?!
Also. Maybe don’t be such an ageist, lazy, nosey, lying do nothing piece of shit with nothing better to but harass folks who are more successful than you. Fuck off
Aw, show us on society where the bad man touched you.
What? Did you see that on Facebook?
That poor capitalist worshipper :(, I can’t believe they’d do that to them!
Success doesn’t come from money. Success is about being strong in your community and embodying good values.
Neither is a waste, but neither is fair.
The young are paid with youth, while the elderly are paid with currency.
The elderly who are lucky enough to have money they can spend spend an awful lot of it telling youngsters what to do.
Two sides of the same coin.
When I was in my 20s I had all the energy and creativity, but couldn’t afford the means to put them to good use.Now in my 40s I have the necessary disposable income, but my energy has been zapped by trying to get on top of this adulting business. I still get a creative burst, but I have to manage my projects so that I can stick to something I’m actually able to complete.
As someone who’s in that first bit and can feel how I’m having to supress those things due to the need to adult, it is so sad
Could have fooled me: I’m old and have no money
Having disposable income these days comes from having the same luck that made boomers millionaires. Not to say it doesn’t involve hard work, but lots of people work hard. The people who get actual compensation for it are either born into it or get very lucky.
Why couldn’t I have three money and no kids?
Better to have spent your money in your youth when you enjoyed it properly.
I didn’t have money then either.
It’s all relative - if you didn’t have enough money then you would have starved or died of exposure, so good thing you spent it on food and shelter instead of dying? (Or, you spent all your free time growing food and making your own clothing and shelter - how did you pay the taxes on the land then?)
I’m old. What’s money?
I think it’s this pink paper that people use in Canada. Most people never see it. Mostly because Canada is cold.
Money is wasted on the rich and their lavish culture. Don’t be ageist about it.
When I was young, I had energy but no money. When I’m older, I’ll have money but no energy. It’s only now in my 30s and 40s that I have… neither. 😔
The purpose of pointless expensive rubbish is to show that you can afford to waste your money on pointless expensive rubbish.
Vehicles like that are wasted on everyone, that’s the point.
Whoever finds a way to convert money into youth is on a winner.
Just purchase some blood plasma from young people and inject it.
As opposed to the youth into money….
Labour turns youth into money. The young die in factories so the old can live in luxury
I don’t know about that, but there are several people swilding rich people on that front. I hope Musk’s chest pops from all the HGH he’s taking.
Yep, never seen a young person with an expensive car before
Must be nice to not have been surrounded by trust fund babies…
I was being sarcastic. OP’s shower thought is asinine.
Not one that wasn’t given to them by a rich daddy or mommy.
Yep, never seen a young person buy something that they can’t really afford. Young folks are so wise, patient, and financially literate that it strains my imagination to even entertain the idea of one making poor purchasing decisions.
What doesn’t strain the imagination is banks making loans to foolish young people who are setting themselves up for decades of debt service.
I know many young people with expensive cars and not one was given to them. Not everyone can afford an expensive car but almost anyone can get one if they wish.
Define young. Define expensive.
16 year olds in a new custom Lambo? If you know more than one of those who “earned” the money for that, you’ve got an outrageously rare set of acquaintances - or a very distorted view of “earned.”
I bought a brand new Mazda Miata on credit my first week in my first job after University - was that given to me? Maybe the car wasn’t, but the education was.
It’s technically possible, but an absolutely terrible idea. That mindset will keep them poor in the future. See: $100k truck parked next to trailer home, hemi charger on military base, Range Rover in the hood.
It’s technically possible, but an absolutely terrible idea
This is part of my broader point. Nothing in OP’s story suggests the old lady is actually flush with cash; she just has a bitchin’ car. She could be an idiot who signed on for 45% APR. Seeing someone with a nice car doesn’t mean they’re actually rich.
the quote is by George Bernard Shaw
Wisdom is wasted on the old, and youth is wasted on the young
nothing to do with money, everything to do with the accumulated wisdom of years of living and the ignorant confidence of youth.
I doubt age has anything to do with it. She likely was not begging in the streets when she was young.
$116,550 list.
The logical correlation would be money is wasted on the rich. Youth --> young : Money --> rich
IOW the idea is about not appreciating what you have (“you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone”). So young people not appreciating the youth they have is in the same vein as rich people not appreciating the money they have.
